Dieting results in long term changes to hormones and muscle fibers.

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275. That last part is why people are arguing with you.

The idea that individuals have NO control is incorrect. And the idea that dieters want control but can "never" achieve it is false.

Where I have agreed with you in the thread is that a lot of the traditional stuff we've learned about weight loss is incorrect, or so incomplete that it doesn't get results or gets worse than neutral results. At other points I and others have disagreed with you. And that's not because we think you should or shouldn't do this or that or we have some sense of superiority over those who are overweight. It's because the information you are putting out is at times flat out wrong, at other times wrong to a certain degree or misleading. Sometimes it's the implications - that exercise by default takes a lot of time, is a burden, is impossible if you have chronic pain, has to come at the expense of something else in your life or is ineffective no matter what you do. Even though you haven't told people "don't exercise" that's the message you're sending at some points in the thread and it's unhealthy. I have a problem keeping quiet when I read stuff like that.

The message that you may as well not bother changing your diet because even you you try you will fail is a dangerous message. The message that you can't escape your genes is dangerous. Those are the messages that altered my mindset enough that when I gained weight over the last couple decades, I referred to it as "inevitable" because I'd had a child, because I was nearing 50, because all of the women in my family gain weight at the same ages I was gaining it, even if they were thinner when they were young.

I am really grateful I stopped listening to those messages. It was contributing to a sense of learned helplessness. Whatever you decide to do is your own business but please don't promote to others that we can't control the results we get, or that there's no point in managing our diets or exercise because it's all hopeless anyway.