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JoePhilly

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31. My point is that prior to the overturn of DADT ...

Sun May 6, 2012, 05:33 PM

May 2012

Lots of folks here on DU said Obama would NEVER support it. Then when he signed it they said, well, he'll never really make the military do it. Then when it ended, they said ... just as you did above "Well whoop tee dooo!"

SO ... they spent months attacking him on DADT, and then when it went bye bye ... they said it didn't really matter.

The next domino to fall will be Gay Marriage and DOMA. But I fully expect some to attack Obama endlessly and claim that he won't ever do anything about it. Right up until when he does.

That's just how it seems to work.

Oh btw ... on Tuesday, I'll be voting NO on Amendment 1 in NC. The GOP would LOVE to use gay marriage as an issue in November to energize the right wing base so that NC, which Obama won in 2008, turns RED again.

And this we know for sure ... if Romney wins, you can be sure there will be no action on ending DOMA until sometime after 2016, or later.

So what do we do ... attack Obama for something some folks predict he won't do, even though many of them were wrong on DADT?

Doesn't make sense to me.

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Will Obama do for Gay Rights what Johnson did for Civil Rights. [View all] edhopper May 2012 OP

No. He has not shown the necessary courage and he has a steadfast opposition party, too. LonePirate May 2012 #1

Seriously? edhopper May 2012 #3

One of Obama's spokespeople said, I think last year, that Obama Occulus May 2012 #5

He has to make sure he gets re-elected. musical_soul May 2012 #20

Except for, you know, the 2016 election and the 2020 election and the 2024 election... XemaSab May 2012 #30

If Obama slaughters Romney in 2012 nevergiveup May 2012 #2

I agree. If he wins this election, he will throw his full support behind it. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #4

So his support is conditional upon the election? How reassuring to LGBT Americans! LonePirate May 2012 #9

What is he to do? musical_soul May 2012 #21

So LGBT Americans should be marginalized in favor of votes? LonePirate May 2012 #25

It's political expediancy... cynatnite May 2012 #27

What good is it to the LGBT community if he loses this election? n/t cynatnite May 2012 #22

Just like Clinton did after winning his second term Capt. Obvious May 2012 #23

That was a completely different time... cynatnite May 2012 #24

How much support was there for the Civil Rights movement during LBJ's time? Capt. Obvious May 2012 #26

I think he will, if we can elect a Congress that will cooperate by MineralMan May 2012 #6

Whether he has the Congress that can do it or not edhopper May 2012 #8

I agree. He should make a declaration of his intent and dedication to MineralMan May 2012 #10

I would understand edhopper May 2012 #12

Well, I think that waiting until after the election is the current MineralMan May 2012 #13

True that edhopper May 2012 #15

It has certainly seemed that way. MineralMan May 2012 #18

I wouldn't .. 99Forever May 2012 #7

Probably why he didn't support the end of DADT. JoePhilly May 2012 #11

Well whoop tee dooo. 99Forever May 2012 #19

My point is that prior to the overturn of DADT ... JoePhilly May 2012 #31

Horsefeathers. 99Forever May 2012 #32

whatever JoePhilly May 2012 #34

Obama is against gay marriage, he has had 4 years to change his position, crazyjoe May 2012 #14

If he is edhopper May 2012 #16

President Obama was against gay marriage as a candidate, as the President and he will still... Poll_Blind May 2012 #17

State Senator Obama supported gay marriage and I honestly believe that President Obama does as well. PragmaticLiberal May 2012 #29

and what would Rmoney do? demtenjeep May 2012 #28

Is that a proper response to gay families? FreeState May 2012 #33

not in this election bigtree May 2012 #35