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Savannahmann

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46. It began as a local story.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

Then, as many local stories do, it went national, and then international. The local station, KETV has video, and the report. I posted the link to KETV, which is an ABC news affiliate. Not normally listed as a RW site. Daily Mail picked it up, as did CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/politics/hillary-clinton-van-handicap/

Another local station KCCI Omaha. http://www.kcci.com/news/caught-on-video-clinton-van-parked-in-handicap-space/32418012

Now, you may not think it's a legitimate news story. But it happened. It is a horrible optic to be caught in. My wife, who is handicapped, not that it matters, was not amused to say the least. Bad optics stick with people, and politicians. Look at the ESPN reporter who is now suspended after a rant. Bad optics in the age of the internet stick with you for a very long time. This will come up whenever the Scooby Doo van appears for some time.

The way Democrats win, is when we are smart, and we campaign on issues, and we communicate those issues to the voters. Bad optics hurt those campaigns, because they draw away from the issues, and make it a question of entitled mentality. Hillary has enough baggage on that front already. Her vote for Bankruptcy reform that screwed the average citizen and protected the corporations ability to write off debt is but one example of the entitlement mentality that I mentioned.

The way you learn from your mistakes, is to admit you made a mistake, and take efforts to avoid repeating the mistake. This way, you avoid the mistake. You can bet that every photographer, and every videographer is going to be hustling to try and catch the van parked in another Handicap spot. If we don't learn from the mistake, it will happen again.

This is not RW water. This is what is happening. Simply denouncing it as RW water carrying doesn't help the Democratic Party at all. It makes us look like a bunch of lunatics. I've been a member of the ACLU for more than twenty years. I warned people that the Senate was in jeopardy in 2014, months ahead of time, and was told to shut the hell up. Don't worry I was told, the Democrats are going to win big because the Republicans have low favorables. What nobody was talking about was the Democratic Party favorables were only a few points higher. So we sucked, but they sucked worse.

I want to see a Democrat in the White House. I want to see the Democrats take the Senate. But we're not going to do that if we ignore things that are going to hurt us. Party line bullshit didn't help one damn bit in 2014. It cost us four million votes in 2012, and will lose us the election in 2016.

Pretending that the story isn't news is like putting your fingers in your ears and going I can't hear you la-la-la. It doesn't change facts, and it doesn't change the truth of the horrible optics. Right now, the mainstream media is showing that video from KETV to everyone they can. We can learn, apologize, and say we're taking efforts to keep from doing it again. Or we can shout it's all a trick and a bullshit story with photoshop or other nonsense. Dealing in reality is supposed to be a virtue of the Democratic Party. From Climate Change to economic theory and beyond.

It happened. Deal with it. Don't pretend that by sticking your fingers in your ears that it didn't. That won't win the election, that attitude guarantees that the Republicans get the Trifecta. House, Senate, and Oval Office.

There are 2 meters on that post and the sign with the arrow... Historic NY Apr 2015 #1
Christ. joshcryer Apr 2015 #2
While this won't affect my vote Calista241 Apr 2015 #3
You did see the KETV tag on the van correct? leftofcool Apr 2015 #6
This is a screen grab from a news program. Calista241 Apr 2015 #7
LOL HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #9
It's a screen capture from a KETV story, not a tag on the van. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #10
Looks like it is on the van but hey, a photographer I am not. leftofcool Apr 2015 #16
Adding my vote to screen grab, logo not on van. Agschmid Apr 2015 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #11
LOL, really? snooper2 Apr 2015 #26
Look at this KETV chair Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #42
Odd that the Hillary van has a KETV Channel 7 tag on the back of the van, doncha think? leftofcool Apr 2015 #4
It's a screen capture from a KETV story, not a tag on the van. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #12
lol! demmiblue Apr 2015 #14
looks photo-shopped to me DURHAM D Apr 2015 #5
The Scooby Doo van had to be photo-shopped; Hillary couldn't be that foolish to be caught taking a handicapped space... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #31
You obviously haven't seen the video. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #32
Gang it happened. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #8
Looks to me as if the van may have pulled up to load passengers HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #13
"Gang"? THE SECRET SERVICE PARKS HER CAR. And your thread got locked KittyWampus Apr 2015 #21
Actually I wrote that to let the inevitable jury know. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #25
So you send me an abusive personal message? Cut down on the caffeine. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #35
Resorting to nasty PM's? JTFrog Apr 2015 #44
It began as a local story. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #46
You are embarrassing yourself. JTFrog Apr 2015 #54
Yeah, what version of History do you call that? Savannahmann Apr 2015 #57
All of that concern.... JTFrog Apr 2015 #63
So no apology for claiming I pushed Benghazi? Savannahmann Apr 2015 #64
Pfffft. JTFrog Apr 2015 #66
Jinkies! Orsino Apr 2015 #53
Was it left fredamae Apr 2015 #15
The media has no real story to tell so they go with what they have. HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #18
Really and right wingers are probably against handicapped set aside spaces anyway treestar Apr 2015 #47
The Handicap Parking sign seems to have an arrow pointing sufrommich Apr 2015 #17
I went to the damning link... boston bean Apr 2015 #22
The Republican strategy is to "Romney" her. sufrommich Apr 2015 #23
Interesting. Thing is, both Clintons acknowledge their good fortune but pay their taxes KittyWampus Apr 2015 #36
I knew she was evil. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #19
HAHAHA mercuryblues Apr 2015 #20
So it is ok to park in a spot clearly intended to be used by people with disablities Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #33
it isn't a mercuryblues Apr 2015 #37
I was addressing the "it's ok - the curb wasn't blue" excuse Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #40
It might not be a handicapped spot treestar Apr 2015 #50
For the 3rd time, I addressed the substance separately. My point about the curb being blue excuse Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #56
I don't think the person suggested that treestar Apr 2015 #60
"On top of that the curb is not painted blue designating it as a handicap space. " Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #62
After further consideration, there appears to be a wide open space right next to the handicapped parking spot. Why didn't Hillary just move it 10 feet further up the street? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #38
That's the bad optics piece of it. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #41
Yes, she needs to be a lot more careful, especially when appearing out in public. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #43
I agree - she should walk down the block and be exposed to sniper fire from other buildings jberryhill Apr 2015 #51
You're being ridiculous. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #58
Well ... littlemissmartypants Apr 2015 #24
Break the internet! JaneyVee Apr 2015 #27
Probably trying to find out Turbineguy Apr 2015 #28
You still stuck on her Iraq War vote? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #29
It's a Russian SUV - a KETV seven cylinder model. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2015 #30
heard she shot a man in Reno bigtree Apr 2015 #39
..... MADem Apr 2015 #65
This is silly, Canoe52 Apr 2015 #45
Oh yeah, there's that. treestar Apr 2015 #49
How come it is on the left side of a street? treestar Apr 2015 #48
Could it be a one-way street? KamaAina Apr 2015 #55
Must be. treestar Apr 2015 #59
Is that an arrow pointing left (i.e. away from the BACK of the van) on that handicapped sign? MADem Apr 2015 #52
Yes, there might be a driveway there treestar Apr 2015 #61
Good thing they edited out that part of the picture that showed Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #67
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