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11. I keep reading the opposite

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:55 AM

Apr 2015

but this article makes me hopeful.

Wall Street’s new huge gamble: Why they’re betting Hillary Clinton will stay in their pocket

Clinton's praising Elizabeth Warren, but the 1 percent isn't worried. They may be in for a nasty surprise

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http://www.salon.com/2015/04/16/wall_streets_new_huge_gamble_why_theyre_betting_hillary_clinton_will_stay_in_their_pocket/

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Wall Street’s Hillary Problem: She Is Becoming A Thorn In Their Side [View all] WillTwain Apr 2015 OP

I have to admit, TDale313 Apr 2015 #1

She may surprise lots of us. WillTwain Apr 2015 #2

I'll give you that Hillary is at least attempting to rebrand herself & sound a bit more like Elizabeth. It's a good start, but she has a long way to go... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #5

If she keeps this up and it will be a landslide. WillTwain Apr 2015 #8

I know many thinks Hillary is following EW but look where she was on issues and the year. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #39

This is 2015 not 2009. All that matters is what she would do now. n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #90

That is not the point of my post, there has been comments made of Hillary talking Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #118

its not a "rebrand" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #76

She is not surprising me at all. This is who she is, not some RW talking point that some here listen winstars Apr 2015 #37

You must admit she has a checkered past. WillTwain Apr 2015 #38

Yeah real checkered. She tried to do health care 20 years ago she was very graceful when her husband winstars Apr 2015 #42

bringing out the sexism card I see. This is going to be one nasty, ugly, name calling liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #44

Why does everything need to devolve to sexism or racism? WillTwain Apr 2015 #48

Because ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #83

But we are not all racist or sexist. WillTwain Apr 2015 #86

I like her bad ass attitude. My wife is the same way. upaloopa Apr 2015 #78

agree....its no rebrand... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #77

It is Kabuki Theater, designed to fool the Rubes. bvar22 Apr 2015 #95

Bvar22 strikes again WillTwain Apr 2015 #96

Exactly. It actually reminds me of something from that Bob Altemeyer book on Marr Apr 2015 #109

It means, at the very least, that winds from that direction are being perceived. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #111

But they must like that she hasn't spoken out against the TPP this week! cascadiance Apr 2015 #3

I think they are genuinely pissed about the rhetoric. WillTwain Apr 2015 #4

Exactly. Populist rhetoric during a campaign does not impress me. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #6

The really sad thing? TDale313 Apr 2015 #54

" There's a part of me that's grateful even for the pandering." WillTwain Apr 2015 #62

But how many Presidential candidates talk about helping the middle class? All of them. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #71

When you look back at the powerful pro-labor speeches from our guys in 2008, WillTwain Apr 2015 #74

You have a point... TDale313 Apr 2015 #88

So you're say that there is nothing she can do to convince you? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #85

Yes ... It's a conspiracy! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #84

I think many people are going to be surprised at MineralMan Apr 2015 #7

A lot of voters were motivated by a "Hope and Change" promises campaign by Obama... cascadiance Apr 2015 #10

As you say, the TPP is key. WillTwain Apr 2015 #18

Hmm...So, you think there hasn't been change during MineralMan Apr 2015 #20

He made it sound like he would undo "free trade" treaties during his campaign... cascadiance Apr 2015 #32

So, what practical, attainable suggestion do you have for 2016? MineralMan Apr 2015 #34

Don't hold your breath... this is getting so boring here. Maybe Robert Redford in "The Candidate" winstars Apr 2015 #43

Reinstate Glass Steagall One_Life_To_Give Apr 2015 #58

How are any of the 2016 candidates going to do that MineralMan Apr 2015 #61

I may be mistaken, but don't all of those wishes have to pass through a venomous Congress? libdem4life Apr 2015 #79

I was born and raised a Right Wing Republican. I Chose to become a Liberal Democrat in college. libdem4life Apr 2015 #81

Exactly, and no presidential candidate can promise any such thing. MineralMan Apr 2015 #91

Hillary needs to be questioned on this stuff. WillTwain Apr 2015 #64

She'll hold many of them. She'll also make many speeches. MineralMan Apr 2015 #92

MM, I never said that. WillTwain Apr 2015 #94

You know, I'm not sure she's thinking much about the left MineralMan Apr 2015 #99

She is talking to the left, though. WillTwain Apr 2015 #104

OK. When one shows up, we can talk about that, too. MineralMan Apr 2015 #108

Well, for starters, promise and deliver on vetoes of any Fast Track/TPP bills before him... cascadiance Apr 2015 #121

Hillary just said she is watching it closely. WillTwain Apr 2015 #123

The financial elites rule. WillTwain Apr 2015 #75

I always vote Democrat, also. WillTwain Apr 2015 #12

We won't know what she will actually do MineralMan Apr 2015 #29

Talk will be cheap zipplewrath Apr 2015 #26

You will see things as you see them. MineralMan Apr 2015 #31

Oh wise one zipplewrath Apr 2015 #97

Don't be silly. Of course they will and it does happen. MineralMan Apr 2015 #102

Probably not as long as I zipplewrath Apr 2015 #110

lol - never 840high Apr 2015 #107

Ratner says she recognizes times have changed. WillTwain Apr 2015 #33

But tactics stay the same zipplewrath Apr 2015 #98

She has tossed a few jabs. WillTwain Apr 2015 #100

Oh, that darned Pillow Talk. Honey, how should I vote? LOLOLOL libdem4life Apr 2015 #105

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #89

I just like the way that sounds - soi-disant. MineralMan Apr 2015 #93

... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #103

I assume she's going to have a populist message. Marr Apr 2015 #113

Whatever you say. Presidents have limited powers, MineralMan Apr 2015 #115

Depends on the president. WillTwain Apr 2015 #124

Interesting. So politicians always speak sincerely on the campaign trail, huh? Marr Apr 2015 #128

Wall Street is screaming? hughee99 Apr 2015 #9

The more she talks, the harder it is to take back. WillTwain Apr 2015 #13

Not really, nothing is hard to take back. I know exactly what her intentions are hughee99 Apr 2015 #17

Rhetoric is part of the political game. Obama has talked tough to the banks liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #19

Will you vote for her if she gets the nomination? WillTwain Apr 2015 #24

no I won't. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #28

I keep reading the opposite cali Apr 2015 #11

"Populist" rhetoric during a campaign is easy. 99Forever Apr 2015 #14

i am not sure a front runner has come out his strong in a long time. WillTwain Apr 2015 #16

+1,000,000 ND-Dem Apr 2015 #27

What can she say to convince you she is real? WillTwain Apr 2015 #36

How about she twist some Democrats arms and stop the TPP? 99Forever Apr 2015 #70

I hear ya. WillTwain Apr 2015 #80

almost seems like the winner gets taken to a back room at the WH after the election 0rganism Apr 2015 #65

Definitely WillTwain Apr 2015 #69

It's a lot of yap.. sendero Apr 2015 #15

She needs to be bold. WillTwain Apr 2015 #21

exactly. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #22

that didn't take long. foo_bar Apr 2015 #23

You are killing me. WillTwain Apr 2015 #25

people always lose hope when hope is all there is. there needs to be some actual payoff ND-Dem Apr 2015 #30

That is why people do not vote. WillTwain Apr 2015 #35

agreed. that's why the top 20% vote most; they actually get something out of the deal. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #46

Yep, They all vote. WillTwain Apr 2015 #51

Payoff? Sorry, no. Hope is all we get. Maedhros Apr 2015 #55

"We should expect politicians to deliver." = Truth. Instead we're expected to get all excited ND-Dem Apr 2015 #59

It is hopeless. WillTwain Apr 2015 #63

The first thing we need to do is to stop listening to the Eeyores of the Party Maedhros Apr 2015 #66

Bernie was just on Thom Hartmann, WillTwain Apr 2015 #73

With social media, it is possible. If we all send him a few bucks he could do it. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #112

Bernie must run,I will send him mire than I sent Obama and that was a lot. WillTwain Apr 2015 #122

Pure perception management. HRC is a salesperson for the 1% leveymg Apr 2015 #40

She says, "She wants to be our champion." WillTwain Apr 2015 #67

Street theatre Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #41

let's note also that DLA Piper is an international law firm. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #47

Ugly, to say the least. WillTwain Apr 2015 #57

I like it. DCBob Apr 2015 #45

Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street backers: We get it djean111 Apr 2015 #49

At this point, you are right. WillTwain Apr 2015 #52

But will they be able buy her silence? Orsino Apr 2015 #50

If she clams up, it is a done deal. WillTwain Apr 2015 #53

oh yeah, I'm sure that Wall St is shitting their collective pants.. frylock Apr 2015 #56

Funny and direct. WillTwain Apr 2015 #60

you'll have to forgive my cynicism, but I've seen this movie before.. frylock Apr 2015 #68

I am both a big cynic and hopeful. WillTwain Apr 2015 #72

Her Wall St donors arent worried. bunnies Apr 2015 #82

Jack Walsh, former General Electric CEO and all around prick, loves her. WillTwain Apr 2015 #87

Smoke and mirrors. polichick Apr 2015 #101

Well, unless Hillary puts on a convincing act, she might have some unwelcome company on the campaign trail. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #119

After the election they will 840high Apr 2015 #106

Do you have a link to the Onion for this? AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #114

+1 MineralMan Apr 2015 #116

Hillary's talking all this "for the people" talk tabasco Apr 2015 #117

That's my biggest fear, which is why we need someone we can trust to be a true "champion" for the people, who's been fighting in the trenches. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #120

Hillary just put out a statement on TPP. She is watching it closely. WillTwain Apr 2015 #125

The very least thing she could is oppose fast tracking so it could be debated out in the open and liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #126

They are ramming it through WillTwain Apr 2015 #127