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In reply to the discussion: A bankruptcy attorney's open letter to homophobic Michigan auto shop [View all]haele
(15,420 posts)To the Sovereign Citizen, a Citizen's constitutional rights consist of:
(1) The ability to use the first Amendment to lie, verbally bully, discriminate, and incite unreasonable and blanket hate against anyone or any group that doesn't fit the proper 'Murican's definition of a citizen, up to and including the flavor of religion or color of skin a Citizen prefers without taking responsibility or enduring the repercussions of your acts and words.
(2) The ability to use the second Amendment to physically bully and confront people who don't agree with proper 'Murican's definition of a citizen, up to including the flavor of religion or color of skin you prefer.
(3) The third doesn't apply to non-citizens, only Citizens. When the Civil War part II breaks out, and all the Citizens overcome those weak, cowardly, and corrupt non-citizens that are running 'Murica, the Citizens will be able to quarter the patriotic militia members wherever needed, even if it is in a private home, for the country's own good.
(4) The ability to ignore the probable cause clause of the fourth Amendment and believe that no government can say anything about what a "citizen" does on:
(a)any property claimed as a Citizen's own (whether rightfully gained or not), and (b) to any non-citizen or otherwise ambulatory "property" (i.e., at-will employees, wimminfolk and children) that Citizen claims as their own.
- even if there is a warrant issued for a supposed "crime" that the Citizen commits in protection of his or her own right to act the way they believe because, well - freedumb, or something like that.
(5) The ability to claim the fifth Amendment will never apply to their property or their actions, but can be used with impunity on people they don't like for letting their property be "trashy" or for being "a hazard to the community well being". Oh and protection double jeopardy or self-incrimination - only for "sovereign citizens". Likewise, the 6th and 7th only applies to citizens. All those "non-citizens" and useless eaters of taxpayer's cash that take up probably around 3/4 of the country (according to sovereign citizens) can be shot on sight...
So, not to belabor the issues, claiming to be a proud gun owner when the discussion in hand has nothing to do with guns is a form of identification, a "merit badge" to idiots like this. What does the issue of owning a gun have to do with illogically claiming a right to discriminate against "teh gay" with impunity unless one wants to intimidate the majority of others who have better and far more logical moral and frankly religious arguments about why that is wrong.
Haele