Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
41. We grew up really close to a reservation.
Sun May 6, 2012, 07:45 PM
May 2012

Let me preface this with saying that my father was Native American, I was raised understanding my heritage, and I was friends with a lot of the children in school that I am about to speak about. The only family life a lot of them saw, as screwed up as it was, was mine.
Anyway: There were many Native Americans in our town. They didn't live in the horrible conditions shown in the pictures, but they were close. The tribe in our area now has a casino, although that wasn't always the case. Now people are working, but back when I was a kid they didn't. My parents owned the liquor store in a small town. The Native Americans in town kept us in government commodities (Cheese, peanut butter, etc) which they traded to my dad for booze. And when they got their government checks, they would by large amounts of alcohol.
In El Reno Oklahoma, a town 20 miles south of where I grew up where the reservation actually is, they have to have what they call the Indian Education Program. They had to start it after the horrific amount of Native American children who were sent to school without school supplies. They provided what their parents refused to provide. These poverty stricken people refuse to work, barely kept a roof over their kids' heads, sent them to school in dirty, filthy clothes, and the only meals these kids got were free lunches at school. That is terribly depressing. This is the image of Native Americans that I grew up with. The subsidies provided to Native Americans have hurt them far more than it has helped them. The Elders have tried to reverse this cycle, and in some tribes this has worked, but in the one in our area, I think they are too far gone, even with the casinos they own and run now. There is no push for them to get educated, even though they could go to any state school for free. Three of my friends went to nursing school and are making something of themselves and their children are way better off for it. I wish that was the norm around here, but unfortunately, it isn't and I doubt it ever will be.
The parents of those children (in the pictures) should be ashamed of themselves. The US Government in a different time with a different group of Native Americans started this mess. In order to fix it, it is going to take a lot of work from EVERYONE to stop this cycle. And it's not going to happen as long as we keep letting them play the victims and don't hold them accountable for the decisions they made in their lives that put those children in that situation. If other tribes weren't doing that and promoting Tribal Pride and making something of themselves like the Chickasaw and the Cherokee, then I would agree with everything, but that is not the case. I've seen this crap with my own eyes and it isn't pretty. That is the side of this story no one will tell you.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Land by itself doesn't do much. What determines economic gain is what you do with the land. dkf May 2012 #1
Well ........ yeah. polly7 May 2012 #2
But he has to do something to get that economic gain. dkf May 2012 #6
I've farmed and raised animals ...... it's not all that difficult, and of course Native polly7 May 2012 #9
So their current financial difficulties aren't due to lack of knowledge or education and are dkf May 2012 #15
Owning land equals the opportunity to profit from it in any way they choose. polly7 May 2012 #33
But it was ever said its was the 'cure all' MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #10
Maybe you should read the article RC May 2012 #19
"Edited to add: I can't believe the callus racism of some posters here." MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #26
Yeah, especially since that poster usually gives full-throated support of private property. Starry Messenger May 2012 #28
How do you know what this man has done or hasn't done stranger81 May 2012 #20
If I were the UN I would not expect a response malaise May 2012 #3
More the pity (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #11
Indeed malaise May 2012 #24
And the wingers already think the UN is a plot against them.... Scuba May 2012 #4
Which is crazy since it was President Wilson who laid the groundwork for the UN...an American Pres! vaberella May 2012 #7
Exactly customerserviceguy May 2012 #17
And what about Mexico, UN? You seriously think that Mexico would waste it's time with Texas now? vaberella May 2012 #5
For that matter Mexico has treated its natives horribly 4th law of robotics May 2012 #29
I think we should either leave their land left on green only May 2012 #8
Beat me too it. Richard D May 2012 #14
You got the amount wrong. Anyone who knows American history RebelOne May 2012 #25
The Cobell vs Salazar settlement ended all American Indian claims against the US Federal Government PufPuf23 May 2012 #12
Give back what was stolen by force? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Zalatix May 2012 #13
Expected response: Jester Messiah May 2012 #16
k&r n/t RainDog May 2012 #18
Then Indian tribes should return stolen land to whoever... Amonester May 2012 #21
It is obviously impossible to return North America to its pre 1492 condition mysuzuki2 May 2012 #22
Relatives of the australian aborigine 4th law of robotics May 2012 #23
wtf? cali May 2012 #27
Although I think all Native tribes should have a lot better living conditions Amonester May 2012 #34
The US made treaties with the Indians and broke them think May 2012 #32
And why would the Native Americans have taken the land from? Zalatix May 2012 #35
If people are living in poverty and squalor..... eek MD May 2012 #30
Bump MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #31
+1 thanks. Mc Mike May 2012 #36
If the Seminoles were returned their land lost in era of the Trail of Tears ... lpbk2713 May 2012 #37
Du rec. Nt xchrom May 2012 #38
kickety! countryjake May 2012 #39
Pictures it makes it harder for the apologista. (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #40
We grew up really close to a reservation. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #41
This is always a silly suggestion... MellowDem May 2012 #42
Professor Anaya disagrees with you. MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #43
James Anaya, UN Special Rapporteur on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples visits NCAI MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #44
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»US should return stolen l...»Reply #41