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44. The poster I was replying to - which is not you - stated that Obama did not have a Dem majority

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Sun May 6, 2012, 07:46 PM

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"Obama is powerless" is not a right wing meme.. But it's not a left wing meme either.. [View all] Fumesucker May 2012 OP

It comes from the New Dem/DLC/third wayers trying to dodge accountability for advocating RW policy. Edweird May 2012 #1

Obama isn't powerless. But he also isn't a dictator, so he couldn't overcome the filibuster pnwmom May 2012 #5

So he had essentially the same majority as FDR when he passed most of the New Deal. Edweird May 2012 #15

FDR had the House. You need the House to pass anything. msanthrope May 2012 #17

Please explain, in your mind, 'how' and 'why' Nancy Pelosi was speaker of the house. Edweird May 2012 #22

Because the members of the House elected her. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #31

The poster I was replying to stated that Obama did not have a Dem controlled House. Edweird May 2012 #38

We don't have one now. pnwmom May 2012 #43

The poster I was replying to - which is not you - stated that Obama did not have a Dem majority Edweird May 2012 #44

He didn't have to deal with the current iteration annabanana May 2012 #23

So you believe FDR had it easier than Obama? Edweird May 2012 #35

Not essentially the same majority. The critical number is 60. pnwmom May 2012 #32

So you believe FDR had it easier than Obama? Edweird May 2012 #36

Yes. It was a more obvious crisis, even to those not directly hit. pnwmom May 2012 #45

So when he said "I welcome their hatred" he was just beingt melodramatic, huh? Edweird May 2012 #47

Of the statements I made to back up my conclusion, which weren't true? pnwmom May 2012 #49

Stating that Obama has it harder than FDR did is clearly untrue. Edweird May 2012 #50

I gave you the reasons why I drew that conclusion. pnwmom May 2012 #51

I, for one, see violent military overthrow as much, much worse than political obstruction. Edweird May 2012 #61

FDR experienced "violent military overthrow," did he? When in his 12 years of office pnwmom May 2012 #65

Really? There was collusion between military leadership and corporate interests in a planned coup Edweird May 2012 #66

In the end, there was no proof of such a thing with respect to FDR. pnwmom May 2012 #67

I see. Edweird May 2012 #68

First reply out of the gate nails it. Good work. K&R Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #40

Not sure its a meme The Traveler May 2012 #2

I was reading this OP that way.. Fumesucker May 2012 #3

It's not the criticism, but rather the way that it is posed as being entirely the result of Obama patrice May 2012 #4

Even fair criticism from the left is hated.. Fumesucker May 2012 #9

not only attacked, the heritage foundation was quinnox May 2012 #10

Got a link to the post that applauds the heritage foundation? emulatorloo May 2012 #20

that isnt true Enrique May 2012 #11

I totally agree that the left shouldn't keep quiet, and that that form of pressure should be applied pnwmom May 2012 #7

People are comparing Obama to the Republicans of ten or fifteen years ago for the most part.. Fumesucker May 2012 #28

My political memories go back a long way, but we're living in 2012. pnwmom May 2012 #33

you mean the fdr opposition that tried to organize a military coup and possibly an assassination? HiPointDem May 2012 #12

OK. So please explain the 2006 legislature. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #42

Usually I see that meme coming from certain hard core Obama people quinnox May 2012 #6

He isn't powerless, and he isn't the dictator that some apparently would prefer. pnwmom May 2012 #8

Sorry, doesn't come from Obama supporters, comes from anti-Obama faction emulatorloo May 2012 #16

I gave an example in the OP that does not require legislation, a purely executive function.. Fumesucker May 2012 #29

You asked where the meme came from, I answered your question. emulatorloo May 2012 #52

Actually you gave me two opposite answers.. Fumesucker May 2012 #57

Let's clarify. "Obama is weak" is a right wing meme. emulatorloo May 2012 #58

I posted a specific power that Obama has, the power to reschedule drugs.. Fumesucker May 2012 #60

President Obama isn't powerless. MineralMan May 2012 #13

He does not need Congress to OrwellwasRight May 2012 #53

It is a DU meme used to bludgeon DU'ers who understand that there are three branches of emulatorloo May 2012 #14

Here's what I was responding to in a recent OP.. Fumesucker May 2012 #25

Hmm. Appears poster is thinking of "Obama is weak" meme. emulatorloo May 2012 #54

I can only read the words on my screen.. Fumesucker May 2012 #55

See my reply 58 above emulatorloo May 2012 #59

his press aides deploy it frequently...it's picked up from there. nt nashville_brook May 2012 #18

Link to quotes wher press aides say "Obama is Powerless?" emulatorloo May 2012 #21

Caricatures to the left, caricatures to the right ... sharing one commonality ... JoePhilly May 2012 #19

You think you know my opinion of Obama? Fumesucker May 2012 #24

Re-read your OP ... at the end you asked a question. JoePhilly May 2012 #34

I put an example in the OP of something Obama could do if he wished to.. Fumesucker May 2012 #41

So Obama needs to do that to prove he is not powerless? JoePhilly May 2012 #46

And yet you complained of my caricatures, eh? Fumesucker May 2012 #48

You know, we all spent 8 years basically getting a Ph.D in getting fucked over by... Poll_Blind May 2012 #26

Conservative Democrats and party loyalists, for the most part. Marr May 2012 #27

He isn't "powerless". He's an ambitious centrist politician whose goal is reelection. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #30

Straw man treestar May 2012 #37

+1 emulatorloo May 2012 #56

I should have put this in the OP.. Fumesucker May 2012 #62

+1 great white snark May 2012 #64

That must mean it's a Centrist meme kenny blankenship May 2012 #39

+1 Edweird May 2012 #63

Here's another example of the "Obama is powerless" argument being used.. Fumesucker May 2012 #69