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F4lconF16

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29. A good article from Socialist Worker.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 02:15 PM
Apr 2015
http://socialistworker.org/2015/01/06/the-problem-is-the-barrel

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The police came into being as a social institution to control crowds and to keep dissent at bay, not to catch the bad guys and lock them up. That explains the function the cops play today. They are an arm of the state that answers to the political elite, who themselves answer to the business elite.

What the police do and how they conduct themselves is not something that the general public is allowed to have any power over. Who decided that the best way to fight crime is to constantly patrol the poorest, most segregated urban areas, arresting nonviolent violators of drug laws--overwhelmingly people of color--rather than station officers to sit outside corporate boardrooms and arrest the corporate criminals? We know that tens of trillions of dollars were stolen from American taxpayers during the 2008 Wall Street crisis--yes, stolen--yet none of these criminals go to prison.

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I AM for curtailing any powers the police have--whether through civilian police review boards, or taking away their tanks and military equipment, or making cops wear body cameras, or disarming them, or just having fewer of them around. But whatever success we have in achieving that, we have to understand that we are never going to change the nature of cops' mission.

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We should organize to rein in the police and to redirect the resources that go into law enforcement toward education or jobs--anything else but the cops. But no matter how hard we try, nothing will ever change the unfair, unjust and biased way they operate--because the police are the first line of defense for maintaining a massively unfair, unjust and biased system.

I think we need to recognize that these problems can't be solved in the system we have now. The issues can be allieviated, perhaps, but never solved. Ultimately, the police are not on our side.

http://socialistworker.org/2014/12/10/police-are-different-from-us

If we're going to make a substantial change, we need to start organizing and protesting. Up here in Seattle, the Black Lives Matter movement has done an excellent job at keeping issues like the new multi-hundred-million dollar youth jail in the news. Protest is still our best option--it is visible, and makes the elite nervous.

http://socialistworker.org/2014/09/15/only-protest-will-hold-police

I think we need to protest, now. That is the best thing we can do. Taking to the streets creates awareness. It galvanizes support (and opposition, arguably not a bad thing). And then we need to commit to a long term change in our system. This means refusing to elect Democrats that will not go after the prison complex, refusing to elect "tough on crime" Dems, refusing to elect Dems that will continue cutting social safety nets and worsen the problem, refusing to elect those who will not call out the MIC. It means working our asses off to get far-left candidates (and I mean far left, not 3rd way bullshit "far left&quot , if not elected, in the face of those who are. Chuy Garcia is a perfect example of what we need to do. It's tough, because all the power and money are against us. But protest keeps awareness high, and will enable us to get those candidates on the ticket. The neoliberals will continue to hurt themselves, and will provide us with plenty of opportunity.

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OK, I will start hoping someone will join in marym625 Apr 2015 #1
I asked the local prosecutor: Downwinder Apr 2015 #2
Oh my goodness! marym625 Apr 2015 #3
The answer I came up with: Downwinder Apr 2015 #36
I want to discuss this some more marym625 Apr 2015 #40
I just did a quick check marym625 Apr 2015 #11
If people could be self-policing, we would not need police. Downwinder Apr 2015 #15
wow marym625 Apr 2015 #17
I am just saying that police cannot Downwinder Apr 2015 #30
oh. I guess I misread that marym625 Apr 2015 #32
Only peripherally related, but quotas need to be ended. Trillo Apr 2015 #4
Great point. marym625 Apr 2015 #7
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2015 #5
Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #9
You're welcome Faux pas Apr 2015 #34
Thank you again! marym625 Apr 2015 #35
What is LEO? ann--- Apr 2015 #6
I'm sorry. marym625 Apr 2015 #8
Here is a link that, with minimal effort, will allow you to identify nearly any acronym: PinkPotus Apr 2015 #12
Yeah, that's good, but ann--- Apr 2015 #63
One more time: We need a White House Commission on Institutional Racism cali Apr 2015 #10
I am sorry if I missed you saying that before. marym625 Apr 2015 #13
sorry, not directed at you. I've posted those suggestions cali Apr 2015 #18
I have seen you say some of it but not all. marym625 Apr 2015 #19
New law- Death in Custody Reporting Act of 2013, signed by Obama Dec 18, 2014 Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #33
The only thing I'd add is that the Civilian Oversight Board not reside in the area. They are too libdem4life Apr 2015 #21
Those are great ideas marym625 Apr 2015 #22
Here are some cop watch apps dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #52
Very interesting. Thanks. libdem4life Apr 2015 #56
I completely agree. bravenak Apr 2015 #55
We need a national commission on law enforcement standards and practices. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #14
All excellent points! marym625 Apr 2015 #16
What else to do? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #23
Great ideas marym625 Apr 2015 #25
Insurance. The Police Department is the same as taxpayers. Errors and Omissions-type insurance libdem4life Apr 2015 #24
I wonder how many departments have lost insurance marym625 Apr 2015 #26
I'm talking personal insurance...take classes, take tests, get certified...not just police academy. libdem4life Apr 2015 #38
That's a good idea marym625 Apr 2015 #44
IDK, it used to be impossible to sue a public servant. Things change so fast and I guess the libdem4life Apr 2015 #47
We need more like him marym625 Apr 2015 #48
Hard to tell, but he was dark skinned...Hispanic, I think. libdem4life Apr 2015 #49
There's no doubt that it's a very difficult job marym625 Apr 2015 #51
kicking because I am hoping for more ideas marym625 Apr 2015 #20
careful with federal oversight DustyJoe Apr 2015 #27
hmm. marym625 Apr 2015 #28
Don't get the reference to Mexico...but the point being...they are NOT cops. They are trained to libdem4life Apr 2015 #41
A good article from Socialist Worker. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #29
excellent article! marym625 Apr 2015 #31
This is an exercise in futility. Glassunion Apr 2015 #37
We can't not try. marym625 Apr 2015 #39
As long as there is money to be made, it cannot be stopped. Glassunion Apr 2015 #42
I still believe we have to try marym625 Apr 2015 #46
Past time, but I'm beginning to be a bit encouraged over the new attention and focus because libdem4life Apr 2015 #50
Ask a policeman for directions every day Dan de Lyons Apr 2015 #43
I don't think that will stop what is going on marym625 Apr 2015 #45
Of course, much more is needed Dan de Lyons Apr 2015 #53
absolutely agree marym625 Apr 2015 #59
Thanks for your efforts dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #54
so true marym625 Apr 2015 #60
I was saying self-driving cars dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #64
ah..sorry marym625 Apr 2015 #65
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #57
Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #61
From extensive work we have done on this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #58
No holes to punch marym625 Apr 2015 #62
My .02 worth DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #66
I like it marym625 Apr 2015 #67
My pleasure Ma'am DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #68
Thank you very much for the suggestion marym625 Apr 2015 #69
The whole system could use an overhaul damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #70
I wish I could answer that question marym625 Apr 2015 #71
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