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F4lconF16

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45. I've been on DU before I was a radical socialist.

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 05:45 PM

Apr 2015

I'm here to discuss politics, and I come here in particular for the people. There are a lot of incredibly insightful, intelligent, and friendly posters here, and I can learn a lot from them. Though I don't agree with the basic construction of the society proposed by the Democratic Party, my practical politics for the most part line up with the generally compassionate views held by liberals.

Democrats span a range of views, from heavily corporate authoritarians to democratic socialists. I view things much the same way as the left wing of the party, despite favoring a different economic structure. We all believe in equality (or should: there are Democrats with some highly conservative views on things like gender issues). We all believe in the ending of the military industrial complex. We all believe in changing the prison-system and ending the drug war. Etc., etc. etc..

Many of the methods used to change things in our society are the same. I will happily work with people fully committed to working within the party, because we need to be able to cooperate to fix any of this mess.

I'm not here to convert people of my views. I'm here to discuss and learn, and in the meantime, I'm going to be honest about what I think is true.

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First of all, can we answer these questions? [View all] kentuck Apr 2015 OP

This is exactly what needs to be discussed. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #1

"shifting rightward for centuries" = ? Since 1815? The democratic party was only founded ND-Dem Apr 2015 #4

Yeah, I really meant decades. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #8

+1 daleanime Apr 2015 #11

Then why are you on DU? You're clearly not here to support the Democratic party or its okaawhatever Apr 2015 #41

I've been on DU before I was a radical socialist. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #45

K & R RecoveringJournalist Apr 2015 #2

OK, I'll play. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #3

+100 ND-Dem Apr 2015 #5

Apart from the two people you mentioned, everyone else is on orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #6

Lip service for populist policies... kentuck Apr 2015 #7

Yes, History would agree . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #9

I have problems with think like that - Al Franken and Keith Ellison are from my state. How do I fit jwirr Apr 2015 #17

I was speaking about possible canidates, I love Al . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #19

I know - but I have a problem with all posts like this because I actually have some really good jwirr Apr 2015 #22

Again as I said I was responding to a question posed, here orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #29

Al Franken is a good Senator. kentuck Apr 2015 #26

I believe they have the best of intentions. And there are others. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #51

If California runs dry ... GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #10

If - when. jwirr Apr 2015 #18

Yep, sadly, often the US only reacts to calamities. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #46

We have at least 3 generations on the ground that have been trained to drive, optimistically, into jtuck004 Apr 2015 #12

This: CrispyQ Apr 2015 #14

The 1% are certain their cushion is big enough to pad the fall. CrispyQ Apr 2015 #13

We have our choice between two flavors of shit soda. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #15

I think we have passed the tipping point as far as keeping our lives going as they are. We are going jwirr Apr 2015 #21

I think our last realistic chance to pull out of this using the status quo system was Marr Apr 2015 #31

It was the perfect storm for Republicans to let a Democrat win. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #33

I think the ship was just too big to turn around...? kentuck Apr 2015 #35

Yeah. He had the greatest mandate in history. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #52

Hillary's sanguine campaign bullshit is going to set back Dem party for another decade whereisjustice Apr 2015 #16

I'm surprised at how many think HRC is not only the best shot at winning, but a fantastic choice. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #23

The denial and blindness of those who have imbibed the Clinton Kool-Aid hifiguy Apr 2015 #34

Yep. She has one thing going for her. Hoards of Wall Street cash. Marr Apr 2015 #36

Actually the sky is falling 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #20

Clinton Feinstein types of Dems keep us in this state of madness. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #25

The institutional Democratic Party is now wholly captive hifiguy Apr 2015 #37

And, sadly, a lot of the "good ones" are beholden to Clinton and, by extension, to the 99%. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #38

I knew JG when I was in law school. hifiguy Apr 2015 #39

She has a magical quality, sincere and genuine, passionate and dead serious, but always magical. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #40

The twin realizations that she was hifiguy Apr 2015 #42

overflowing prisons, wall street crime, torture, fracking, drones and war, education/medical gouging whereisjustice Apr 2015 #28

Stop it! 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #44

lol, sorry couldn't help myself. whereisjustice Apr 2015 #47

That's what is so disturbing. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #53

It's really a simple answer why they think it's going well in this country NET Apr 2015 #24

There are a few other progressive dems -- Keith Ellison, Alan Grayson, Sherrod Brown, whathehell Apr 2015 #27

One of the things I looked forward to the most was Alittleliberal Apr 2015 #30

It is at the tipping point hifiguy Apr 2015 #32

Sad to say I see the same thing. nt haikugal Apr 2015 #43

Facts are stubborn things, hard to ignore. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #50

What an excellent post! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #49

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #48

I did post this in labor, but no one seems to like the idea. Cleita Apr 2015 #54

"Environmentally" is kind of a global issue Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #55

I think our politicians are too wealthy and far removed from everyday life to truly understand Skittles Apr 2015 #56

"nor do I think most of them really give a damn" Cleita Apr 2015 #57