Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Should we disqualify politicians who had to "evolve" on marriage equality? [View all]Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)34. You may be right about the Democrats. I was thinking specifically of Rob Portman.
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), once a staunch opponent of gay marriage, says that he now supports same-sex nuptials after his son told him he was gay.
Im announcing today a change of heart on an issue that a lot of people feel strongly about that has to do with gay couples opportunity to marry, Portman said, according to CNN.
Im announcing today a change of heart on an issue that a lot of people feel strongly about that has to do with gay couples opportunity to marry, Portman said, according to CNN.
(from "Rob Portman backs gay marriage after son comes out", March 15, 2013)
I don't think Portman was awaiting that change in public opinion. I think he was genuinely and sincerely a bigot who really did evolve, but only when he found out that the issue reached into his own family.
As a result, I rank him ahead of those who are still opposed to marriage equality, but behind those who saw and espoused the fairness in the issue even when they had no personal connection to it.
You're referring to Democrats who saw the justice from the beginning, but who held back from a leadership role until it became politically safe. How to rank Portman vis-a-vis those Democrats is left as an exercise for the reader.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
47 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Should we disqualify politicians who had to "evolve" on marriage equality? [View all]
RandySF
Apr 2015
OP
Manny supports a candidate who MUST have evolved because she was a Republican for 30 years
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#25
Never ever ever ever did I ever think I would ever see the day of gay marriage in the US. It has
RKP5637
Apr 2015
#3
+1. Some get to the table later than others but I think we should welcome all who sincerely show up.
pinto
Apr 2015
#5
No, but I also think we shouldn't pretend craven political calculation and expedience
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#9
And therein lies my main problem with Hillary Clinton - and not just on LGBT issues.
Ms. Toad
Apr 2015
#14
I dont really think the leadership of our party genuinely "evolved" on this in their thinking
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#22
You may be right about the Democrats. I was thinking specifically of Rob Portman.
Jim Lane
Apr 2015
#34
History is a good teacher, too bad about all the sleepy, lazy, inattentive students.
Fred Sanders
Apr 2015
#11
TPM: In an interview with NPR last summer, she said marriage equality was a states issue.
AtomicKitten
Apr 2015
#12
It's a question of timing and intention. I don't trust changes of heart at election time.
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2015
#16
People who criticize Clinton and Obama for jumping on this when it was politically advantageous to
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#19
So you're saying that you've "gotten it right" on all topics from the very beginning, right?
WillowTree
Apr 2015
#28
You're absolutely right. Obviously not a high reading comprehension day for me.
WillowTree
Apr 2015
#30
I've never understood why it makes any difference to someone whether someone else can marry or not
Fumesucker
Apr 2015
#35
Refusing to rethink old ideas, gain knowledge or change is the hallmark of a Republican. nt
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#44