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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
54. Thanks for your efforts
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:35 PM
Apr 2015

I see a lot of good ideas in this thread, not many clear paths though of how to bring them about. Pretty much the same here, a few ideas, not a clue how to make them happen.

One thing that strikes me when I see videos of police violence, is the police often seem to have dehumanized the suspects. They aren't seeing them as individuals with human problems, they are seeing them as vermin that need to be imprisoned or eliminated. This is a cultural and spiritual problem. I think training could go a long way in this regard. They should be trained to be compassionate and to recognize the humanity in the people they police, even if they have to arrest them. It might sound ridiculuous, but I think it addresses a real problem in the appropriate way. We've all seen the statements like "fuck your breath", or a lack of any effort by the cops to resucitate or otherwise keep alive a shooting victim. There's no excuse for that. Coupled with the training there needs to be monitoring of each officer's record, and their careers should be jeopardized when any such behavior is seen. Basically I think they should be trained in nonviolence more than they should be trained in violence.

Also I would like to see police departments decoupled from revenue from any of their policing. There should be zero financial incentive to a department or an individual officer to make arrests, to increase arrests, to write tickets, to confiscate property. The police should be funded entirely from tax revenue. And any revenue from police fines or property confiscation should go to the general treasury.

Finally, we have a lot of crimes that should not be crimes. Legalize drugs and treat their abuse as a health problem not a criminal problem. I don't know about prostitution, I've heard arguments for regulating it but I'm uncertain if that is a good idea. The eventual emergence of self-driving cars might prevent a lot of the need for traffic policing and drunken driving checkpoints.

A lot of crimes are just crimes of being poor, such as someone without a home trying to sleep or go to the bathroom or solicit money when they are desperate. Some property theft and even mugging is also a crime of desperate poverty. So addressing poverty would go a long way towards stopping these crimes (also towards improving our education system, though that's a different issue). Of course addressing poverty is no small matter, a very important one though. We're a wealthy country that could take care of the basic needs of all of its people if it was a system priority (seems our system is more concerned with maximizing returns for stock shareholders).

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OK, I will start hoping someone will join in marym625 Apr 2015 #1
I asked the local prosecutor: Downwinder Apr 2015 #2
Oh my goodness! marym625 Apr 2015 #3
The answer I came up with: Downwinder Apr 2015 #36
I want to discuss this some more marym625 Apr 2015 #40
I just did a quick check marym625 Apr 2015 #11
If people could be self-policing, we would not need police. Downwinder Apr 2015 #15
wow marym625 Apr 2015 #17
I am just saying that police cannot Downwinder Apr 2015 #30
oh. I guess I misread that marym625 Apr 2015 #32
Only peripherally related, but quotas need to be ended. Trillo Apr 2015 #4
Great point. marym625 Apr 2015 #7
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2015 #5
Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #9
You're welcome Faux pas Apr 2015 #34
Thank you again! marym625 Apr 2015 #35
What is LEO? ann--- Apr 2015 #6
I'm sorry. marym625 Apr 2015 #8
Here is a link that, with minimal effort, will allow you to identify nearly any acronym: PinkPotus Apr 2015 #12
Yeah, that's good, but ann--- Apr 2015 #63
One more time: We need a White House Commission on Institutional Racism cali Apr 2015 #10
I am sorry if I missed you saying that before. marym625 Apr 2015 #13
sorry, not directed at you. I've posted those suggestions cali Apr 2015 #18
I have seen you say some of it but not all. marym625 Apr 2015 #19
New law- Death in Custody Reporting Act of 2013, signed by Obama Dec 18, 2014 Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #33
The only thing I'd add is that the Civilian Oversight Board not reside in the area. They are too libdem4life Apr 2015 #21
Those are great ideas marym625 Apr 2015 #22
Here are some cop watch apps dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #52
Very interesting. Thanks. libdem4life Apr 2015 #56
I completely agree. bravenak Apr 2015 #55
We need a national commission on law enforcement standards and practices. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #14
All excellent points! marym625 Apr 2015 #16
What else to do? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #23
Great ideas marym625 Apr 2015 #25
Insurance. The Police Department is the same as taxpayers. Errors and Omissions-type insurance libdem4life Apr 2015 #24
I wonder how many departments have lost insurance marym625 Apr 2015 #26
I'm talking personal insurance...take classes, take tests, get certified...not just police academy. libdem4life Apr 2015 #38
That's a good idea marym625 Apr 2015 #44
IDK, it used to be impossible to sue a public servant. Things change so fast and I guess the libdem4life Apr 2015 #47
We need more like him marym625 Apr 2015 #48
Hard to tell, but he was dark skinned...Hispanic, I think. libdem4life Apr 2015 #49
There's no doubt that it's a very difficult job marym625 Apr 2015 #51
kicking because I am hoping for more ideas marym625 Apr 2015 #20
careful with federal oversight DustyJoe Apr 2015 #27
hmm. marym625 Apr 2015 #28
Don't get the reference to Mexico...but the point being...they are NOT cops. They are trained to libdem4life Apr 2015 #41
A good article from Socialist Worker. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #29
excellent article! marym625 Apr 2015 #31
This is an exercise in futility. Glassunion Apr 2015 #37
We can't not try. marym625 Apr 2015 #39
As long as there is money to be made, it cannot be stopped. Glassunion Apr 2015 #42
I still believe we have to try marym625 Apr 2015 #46
Past time, but I'm beginning to be a bit encouraged over the new attention and focus because libdem4life Apr 2015 #50
Ask a policeman for directions every day Dan de Lyons Apr 2015 #43
I don't think that will stop what is going on marym625 Apr 2015 #45
Of course, much more is needed Dan de Lyons Apr 2015 #53
absolutely agree marym625 Apr 2015 #59
Thanks for your efforts dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #54
so true marym625 Apr 2015 #60
I was saying self-driving cars dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #64
ah..sorry marym625 Apr 2015 #65
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #57
Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #61
From extensive work we have done on this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #58
No holes to punch marym625 Apr 2015 #62
My .02 worth DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #66
I like it marym625 Apr 2015 #67
My pleasure Ma'am DashOneBravo Apr 2015 #68
Thank you very much for the suggestion marym625 Apr 2015 #69
The whole system could use an overhaul damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #70
I wish I could answer that question marym625 Apr 2015 #71
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