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424. No, Rahm led the ACA before it ever got to Baucus.

Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:04 AM

Apr 2015

The cake was baked by the White House.

Baucus was head of the Finance Committee through which the ACA had to go before a Senate vote. I will say, whoever decided that Baucus should head that committee was no liberal. "The American Civil Liberties Union rated Baucus at 60 percent in December 2002, indicating a mixed civil rights voting record.[16]&quot And, before DOMA, he wanted a Constitutional ban on equal marriage. Wiki says more about his voting record. Though wiki calls him a moderate Democrat, I'm not sure I'd describe him as a moderate Republican. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Baucus

Baucus did let a member of the insurance industry "help" write ACA. Whether that was part of the deal the WH cut or his own bright idea, I don't know. (Lobbyists' writing bills for the government of the 100% is not unusual, but geez.) And Baucus did get a nice and pivotally important ambassadorship to China for his trouble.

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Obama Levels Cheap Shot At Unions - Again [View all] WillTwain Apr 2015 OP

Yeah those dumb unions wanting jobs with living wages and stuff LittleBlue Apr 2015 #1

I could not believe my ears. WillTwain Apr 2015 #2

His Wall Street cronies, maybe? whathehell Apr 2015 #4

whathehell is with this whathehell? WillTwain Apr 2015 #7

Well, Will.. whathehell Apr 2015 #14

Did he really say that about the eighties? WillTwain Apr 2015 #16

Here you are: F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #25

Thanks, stunning. WillTwain Apr 2015 #35

Apparently someone who fooled everyone who voted for his promise of Hope and Change. :( nt daredtowork Apr 2015 #204

Not gonna get fooled again. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #220

Hillary may need Bill to sell this one more time. WillTwain Apr 2015 #323

Yeh. Let's have a Republican instead. That's the ticket. HERVEPA Apr 2015 #326

What does that even mean? WillTwain Apr 2015 #328

It's the General election already? BeanMusical Apr 2015 #376

Charter schools and infrastucture loans. Right off the old DLC website. merrily Apr 2015 #250

Did Anyone See Rachel Maddow's Show About The VA? ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #435

Yes, even I was surprised..I heard it on the radio whathehell Apr 2015 #38

This pretty much sums up the new Democratic party: CrispyQ Apr 2015 #275

Time for upheaval WillTwain Apr 2015 #278

+100 ND-Dem Apr 2015 #299

21st Century Feudalism CrispyQ Apr 2015 #344

It is all preordained, WillTwain Apr 2015 #364

Agreed..and they've been able to get away with the "social issues alone" agenda whathehell Apr 2015 #342

My thought on these Gen 80s loving, Gen Reagan loving and Ayn Rand & Milton Friedman appalachiablue Apr 2015 #389

Just returned from a TPP rally. Not a millennial or gen-xer to be found, average age probably 60. WillTwain Apr 2015 #392

Where were his walking shoes when labor was in trouble in Wisconsin? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #22

Precisely. I was very disappointed in him for that, and it said a LOT, in my view.. whathehell Apr 2015 #36

+1 Go Vols Apr 2015 #48

Harvard probably did not have a class in breaking your back for a paycheck. WillTwain Apr 2015 #37

"comfortable Pair of shoes..."- he hasn't found any in 6+ years nt msongs Apr 2015 #187

+ a gazillion!!! Lifelong Protester Apr 2015 #209

50-50 Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #43

EFCA was his promise. I feel for Hillary. WillTwain Apr 2015 #46

Not to worry. There's always Diebold or whoever owns that franchise now. merrily Apr 2015 #248

Yes Diebold or another e-vote corruptor unfortunately. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #396

Okay.. whathehell Apr 2015 #154

Glad to see you mention "comfortable shoes" -- that was the first thing I thought of. Jim Lane Apr 2015 #172

Golf shoes are plenty comfortable. I know he owns them. WillTwain Apr 2015 #374

OS Googling sit down window strike didn't help me. merrily Apr 2015 #245

Obama Embraces Chicago Factory Sit-In: Symbol of New Wave of Activism Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #252

Thanks. I saw that when I googled but he was not President yet then, so merrily Apr 2015 #253

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P.S. I would not have expected him to walk a picket line, but merrily Apr 2015 #249

and he was even worse Mnpaul Apr 2015 #97

Truth. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #166

He fooled us again? Enthusiast Apr 2015 #223

Two party system leaves no option. Fooled or not he got all our votes. WillTwain Apr 2015 #375

Yes, it WAS a cheap shot..I wonder how much $$ he took from the unions when campaigning? whathehell Apr 2015 #3

I do not get his disdain for the very people that got him elected. WillTwain Apr 2015 #5

Well, most union workers, excepting those in Sports & Entertainment, aren't rich whathehell Apr 2015 #9

Father Knows Best WillTwain Apr 2015 #11

Yeah, it's shitty.. whathehell Apr 2015 #24

What about the party as a whole? WillTwain Apr 2015 #42

To be honest, Will, I don't think he cares.. whathehell Apr 2015 #67

HIs actions speak loudly about who he cares about. Not the working class. WillTwain Apr 2015 #73

He still has to raise money for his Presidential Library, but merrily Apr 2015 #246

Rahm - mayor of Chicago WillTwain Apr 2015 #372

But most union workers make a good wage. AngryAmish Apr 2015 #17

For what they do, the pay is OK - no better than that. WillTwain Apr 2015 #26

Yes, but non union wages are worse. merrily Apr 2015 #251

Of course...The unions really "made" the middle class from the forties until the eighties whathehell Apr 2015 #33

He is on board fully with the Larry Summers model. WillTwain Apr 2015 #44

Obama hired Summers, knowing what havoc repeal of Glass Steagall had caused this country and others, merrily Apr 2015 #254

Imagine the closed door meetings between Obama, Emannuel and Summers - laughing at us. WillTwain Apr 2015 #264

The one percent does need a large middle class Mnpaul Apr 2015 #108

No, if they did they would support policies that support one. whathehell Apr 2015 #145

A good portion of the world can't afford their products Mnpaul Apr 2015 #184

I've often thought of that, and don't know the explanation, but I agree with with whatthehell. merrily Apr 2015 #255

Maybe that's why whathehell Apr 2015 #322

Retired Union member here happynewyear Apr 2015 #64

Big hug! merrily Apr 2015 #263

Congatulations, another union success story. WillTwain Apr 2015 #265

elitism is a poison PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #41

I don't disagree.. whathehell Apr 2015 #45

I thought he fancied himself as Lincoln. What a pile. WillTwain Apr 2015 #47

i will go a step further and claim that PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #65

And the truth of Lincoln's statement should be obvious. zeemike Apr 2015 #152

I am in complete agreement. n/t PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #163

Honest Abe, Dishonest Barack WillTwain Apr 2015 #373

It never ceases to amaze me what... StarzGuy Apr 2015 #216

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Greenspan, Summers, potaytoe, pohtahto. merrily Apr 2015 #256

Obama has been the greatest because he fooled so many. WillTwain Apr 2015 #268

Lots of dollars, now he betrays them. That is why we can never listen to what they SAY sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #19

Sadly, Hillary will pay for this distrust. WillTwain Apr 2015 #39

Look at Obama's cabinet Mnpaul Apr 2015 #114

I agree with you DrKZ Apr 2015 #131

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Not only in his cabinet, but on Commissions. merrily Apr 2015 #266

Also, the dems he appointed are hand picked shills for the most part. WillTwain Apr 2015 #270

You know his commission picks but not that he said he was like a 1980s moderate Republican? merrily Apr 2015 #272

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That bears no relevance to my question. merrily Apr 2015 #282

I shudder to think what happens when Ginsburg retires. merrily Apr 2015 #422

......! KoKo Apr 2015 #347

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You expressed sympathy for Hillary at least twice on this thread. merrily Apr 2015 #284

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Looking at only this one thread, I see inconsistencies in the opinions you express. merrily Apr 2015 #425

Hillary troubles me but I am holding out hope. WillTwain Apr 2015 #427

Hillary and Wal-Mart merrily Apr 2015 #419

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Pitiful and gross. Good old Raygun minus the Southern Strategy strikes again. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #6

Can he at least try to hide his hatred? WillTwain Apr 2015 #8

The new democrats do not like nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #10

Nobody is claiming this as news, It needs to be reported on, anyway. WillTwain Apr 2015 #27

My apologies, but let me clarify nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #31

I have been trying to let DUers know about the perilous position democrats are in. WillTwain Apr 2015 #51

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They have threatened openly already to walk away. WillTwain Apr 2015 #57

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Trumka has clearly threatened for 2016. WillTwain Apr 2015 #61

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Take my word on this, or not nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #86

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He is floating it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #92

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+1,000 happynewyear Apr 2015 #58

+1 a unique voice on DU merrily Apr 2015 #262

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working families ticket, or doesn't that matter to you? merrily Apr 2015 #271

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he no longer needs votes Skittles Apr 2015 #12

Hillary may end up paying for his blatant disrespect. WillTwain Apr 2015 #21

she already has Skittles Apr 2015 #96

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Groomed for the job of stealth and betrayal. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #226

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You made me laugh again! Hyperbole is fun! Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #305

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Fred lives in the UK, he doesn't whathehell Apr 2015 #380

I've always suspected that.. whathehell Apr 2015 #55

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the prez is a smart guy. he know which side is bread is buttered. KG Apr 2015 #15

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They walked away in 1980 n2doc Apr 2015 #260

This Rank and File RobinA Apr 2015 #411

Nothing new here. sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #20

Same old song and dance. WillTwain Apr 2015 #30

Whatever did you expect from a 80s' Republican? DeSwiss Apr 2015 #29

Oh My God WillTwain Apr 2015 #32

You want more truth? DeSwiss Apr 2015 #63

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When you see things clearly you're not pessimist, you're a realist. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #217

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I checked it and it's working for me...... DeSwiss Apr 2015 #369

Worked WillTwain Apr 2015 #371

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Same here. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #227

this is pure politics tho redruddyred Apr 2015 #130

I try to eschew all labels..... DeSwiss Apr 2015 #171

President Obama has no love for Organized LABOR. bvar22 Apr 2015 #40

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He's spoken of progressives like that as well. n/t whathehell Apr 2015 #167

Halter was collateral damage. merrily Apr 2015 #286

Ugh. That's repulsive. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #49

Obama explains why union leaders formally oppose Free Trade agreements. yallerdawg Apr 2015 #54

Thanks for the explain, yaller. elleng Apr 2015 #66

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The hostility is FUD ... notice the off hour recs on these half truth threads are.. uponit7771 Apr 2015 #235

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Nice WillTwain Apr 2015 #360

Pure Bunk: He will create good jobs all right in China. What does he know that Trumks doesn't? WillTwain Apr 2015 #69

WHAT. A. FUCKING. LOAD. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #80

I was making around 34 bucks an hour in '95 Go Vols Apr 2015 #95

Of course you realize the Instant Outrage Based On One Sentence Out of Context has already begun? Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #124

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You do not get the big picture at all. He loves and needs you. WillTwain Apr 2015 #309

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Here is a little more context for you pal. WillTwain Apr 2015 #311

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Another disappointment from the most disappointing POTUS ever. Scuba Apr 2015 #56

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Not what he said at all. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #132

Well, they also suggested that the only way geek tragedy Apr 2015 #185

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I Find You "LOL" Offensive! ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #436

They refuse to acknowledge all the Progress our Dem Prez has made but Cha Apr 2015 #446

Did you watch the clip of him marginalizing unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #449

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It stands to reason that it will cost American workers. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #230

No I don't but thanks for trying to help. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #291

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I am fucking sick of this bull. WillTwain Apr 2015 #72

You all do know TPP includes Obama's NAFTA fixes? yallerdawg Apr 2015 #78

OK WillTwain Apr 2015 #83

Fixes? DeSwiss Apr 2015 #84

My eyes almost didn't stay in my head BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #325

Scooby Doo, off with the mask. WillTwain Apr 2015 #329

It's the new meme going around BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #330

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I knew it was risky. WillTwain Apr 2015 #337

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What have they changed in Article 17 of Mexican Constitution? Hoyt Apr 2015 #331

Forgive me 123 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #340

Forgiven.. So what did they have to change in Article 123? Please try to focus in your response. Hoyt Apr 2015 #343

They started by weakening strike rights nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #352

TPP and NAFTA are responsible for all of that? Hoyt Apr 2015 #353

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That's what we're afraid of. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #231

Hackneyed excuses are getting old-yaller. WillTwain Apr 2015 #276

When Hillary is elected, sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #70

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Very disappointed in this......d*mn. a kennedy Apr 2015 #71

Two more years. WillTwain Apr 2015 #76

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Nicely stated. WillTwain Apr 2015 #79

I don't think he "detests us." Scootaloo Apr 2015 #106

They have his ear. We do not. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #233

this is exactly what occurs when PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #88

Thanks for sharing that. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #232

Well put, Scootaloo malthaussen Apr 2015 #257

�They are always against Trade" busterbrown Apr 2015 #81

Heard it on the ED Show WillTwain Apr 2015 #87

I�m looking all over the place on his facebook google everything busterbrown Apr 2015 #93

Look at this thread, you will find it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #110

Try looking in the thread of all places. You owe me an apology. WillTwain Apr 2015 #140

http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/hillary-clinton-breaks-silence-on-tpp-429927491836 WillTwain Apr 2015 #107

Yep Andy823 Apr 2015 #94

This is a fucking disgrace.. busterbrown Apr 2015 #100

Waiting for the apology. WillTwain Apr 2015 #113

This is a disgrace all right. WillTwain Apr 2015 #121

Hey Buster, You owe me an apology. You promised. WillTwain Apr 2015 #135

Hardly a cheap shot... busterbrown Apr 2015 #143

Thank you Buster. I appreciate your apology. Very nice. WillTwain Apr 2015 #149

Hey buddy, the link is posted and it is even worse than reported. Settle down. WillTwain Apr 2015 #111

Hey will...Here�s one for U.. busterbrown Apr 2015 #147

At least you are trying. WillTwain Apr 2015 #155

Apology will be accepted upon delivery. WillTwain Apr 2015 #128

You need to give a damn about your fellow Americans! PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #176

Andy, what I give a damn about is you apologizing for ugly assumptions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #280

Here are the remarks in full, White House website. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #146

At least one lie/fabrication PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #160

He is such a bullshitter. WillTwain Apr 2015 #285

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #393

You did not introduce yourself. WillTwain Apr 2015 #398

No thanks. Darb Apr 2015 #404

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I'm certainly not defending those remarks, simply providing them for those who claim they are Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #334

i did not think you were defending them PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #336

The real quote is much worse than the shortened paraphrase. WillTwain Apr 2015 #338

Here is the full quote.... PosterChild Apr 2015 #368

regardless of what the provisions are, are opposed to trade. Unbelievable language WillTwain Apr 2015 #370

it is certainly historicly incorrect . .. PosterChild Apr 2015 #377

Blatantly false and merely an opportunity for a cheap shot at adversaries. That is all it is. WillTwain Apr 2015 #378

Insulting but not surprising. senseandsensibility Apr 2015 #99

Maybe Scott Walker will pick him of Vice President. WillTwain Apr 2015 #115

He became ineligible about three months ago. Jim Lane Apr 2015 #181

All the appointments that I am familiar with tell me a bad story. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #237

When it comes to unions and other issues that involve money democrank Apr 2015 #101

He saved my pension JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #218

Obama did not save your pension - unions saved your pension. They forced his hand. WillTwain Apr 2015 #281

We see it differently. JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #335

With all due respect, we do see it differently, WillTwain Apr 2015 #350

There is no center about it. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #238

Remarkable absence of pom poms and the wavers thereof on this thread Fumesucker Apr 2015 #103

Waiting for the official talking points, probably. QC Apr 2015 #125

There are enough to suit me. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #239

Presidential Assholery. polichick Apr 2015 #104

He has Tourette Syndrome for unions: Fuck you unions, Fuck you unions, Fuck you unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #138

Ha! And for liberals too. polichick Apr 2015 #247

Stupid statement. Grand scale stupid. Darb Apr 2015 #394

My post was simply accurate... polichick Apr 2015 #439

Kicked! ibewlu606 Apr 2015 #105

Again we have been fooled into thinking this guy is a Democrat for INdemo Apr 2015 #109

He's Come A Long Way colsohlibgal Apr 2015 #112

He started that journey when he picked Rahm. FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #191

Campaigned for Rahm in Chicago, avoided Wisconsin and Walker. In a nutshell, it says it all. WillTwain Apr 2015 #287

Mr. President & Congress turbinetree Apr 2015 #117

After years of this kind of outsourcing it can even becomes a serious national security issue. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #240

Correct turbinetree Apr 2015 #317

Thanks, turbinetree. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #319

unions are always against trade that trades away their fucking jobs elehhhhna Apr 2015 #120

recommended . nt Duppers Apr 2015 #126

This is a huge mistake for Obama and the Democrats. 99Forever Apr 2015 #133

Why a mistake? Geronimoe Apr 2015 #142

I'm sorry but it's a subject I... 99Forever Apr 2015 #144

So much for the community organizer. He is a DC insider. He has forgotten where he came from. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #136

He doesn't need their money or support anymore, and his post-presidential earnings hughee99 Apr 2015 #141

BS from the WH Beowulf42 Apr 2015 #150

Ask the workers at US based BMW, VW, TOYOTO, SIEMENS, etc., plants what they think of trade. Hoyt Apr 2015 #151

Appreciative the stuff you found on line today explaining the TPP.. busterbrown Apr 2015 #153

I get their concern, but it's gone far beyond that. Hoyt Apr 2015 #159

I agree Andy823 Apr 2015 #178

Forget about the politicians, and all that nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #169

Trade != free trade. jeff47 Apr 2015 #174

"Free" Trade = Low Wages TBF Apr 2015 #157

I don't know how you get around lower wages in a global economy. jonno99 Apr 2015 #213

I hear you - TBF Apr 2015 #312

There is, it is called progressive taxes. Except, it must be a global movement. WillTwain Apr 2015 #321

That's the way I see it as well. nt TBF Apr 2015 #348

Obama pals around with Christian dominionists/Christian reconstructionists; democracy is anathema to blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #158

Unions helped elect this man! wolfie001 Apr 2015 #161

Five words Madmiddle Apr 2015 #162

Crap, again? blackspade Apr 2015 #165

The middle class zentrum Apr 2015 #173

I noted that too and thought it undeserved. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #175

It's going to be interesting to see where Obama PumpkinAle Apr 2015 #179

How can you care .... Caretha Apr 2015 #180

Link? I'd like to see the actual quote. JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #182

Exactly. FACTS would be useful. elleng Apr 2015 #189

"He is not dissing unions -- he is explaining their opposition, and how he understands their Cha Apr 2015 #192

Yes indeed, Cha. elleng Apr 2015 #198

It almost doesn't matter what Obama actually said. JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #339

Another way to see this. WillTwain Apr 2015 #351

History repeats JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #388

You call wanting a president that puts American workers first a sanctimonious purity test. WillTwain Apr 2015 #390

Yeah, I know, JohnnyRingo.. only it's not really news to me. The same ol shit sandwich.. but, Cha Apr 2015 #385

Obama is a rude man. When he is cornered he loses his cool and turns into Cheney. WillTwain Apr 2015 #391

You're rude.. President Obama is an excellent President. Cha Apr 2015 #395

Run of the mill, WillTwain Apr 2015 #406

You don't get it and that's alright.. it's actually a badge of honor for President Obama Cha Apr 2015 #412

This message was self-deleted by its author WillTwain Apr 2015 #413

WillTwain compares Obama to Cheney JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #432

He's just acting out for his "100 of Recs".. to show them just how insidpid he can be for those recs Cha Apr 2015 #445

WTF?? treestar Apr 2015 #444

Did you watch the clip of him marginalizing unions? WillTwain Apr 2015 #450

I can't seem to find it, but I'd like to see it JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #451

It is in the OP, at the bottom, Incredible swipe at unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #452

Hey Gringo, Any response? What a swell guy. WillTwain Apr 2015 #453

Thanx Elling. JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #197

You're welcome, JohnnyRingo. elleng Apr 2015 #199

Too bad your suspicions are wrong. You may find listening to the people that got his quote right WillTwain Apr 2015 #327

Did you try looking for the quote, it is all over the thread. WillTwain Apr 2015 #289

and yet he did say that Enrique Apr 2015 #297

Something new, selective reading. WillTwain Apr 2015 #303

You just said Obama "Makes little sense." WillTwain Apr 2015 #307

k and r. this is disgusting, but not surprising anymore. bbgrunt Apr 2015 #188

Now that we know where Obama stands I wonder which Republican INdemo Apr 2015 #190

Unions are the part of the party that DLC types dislike the most. For now. Marr Apr 2015 #195

K & R Thespian2 Apr 2015 #196

For all those that are loyal to the president - a song. WillTwain Apr 2015 #200

Dems started distancing themselves from unions back in the 70s.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #201

Non-unionized workers have become a nasty, selfish bunch daredtowork Apr 2015 #205

That's quite the broad brush you're deploying there Fumesucker Apr 2015 #211

Arg daredtowork Apr 2015 #215

Where I live the perception is that you get a union job by being related to or knowing someone Fumesucker Apr 2015 #296

People often get jobs of ALL kinds from knowing someone -- That's not unique to unions. whathehell Apr 2015 #345

Love your story. WillTwain Apr 2015 #356

Thanks! whathehell Apr 2015 #379

So here you are rhetorically beating up people who are struggling Fumesucker Apr 2015 #381

Try again, lol, I didn't "beat up" anyone and you know it.. whathehell Apr 2015 #384

That is a problem with unions - any organization will develop gatekeepers daredtowork Apr 2015 #362

How was I supposed to take your comments? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #382

I am trying to understand daredtowork Apr 2015 #421

Before you started in on the insults against 90% of the population I had already posted positively Fumesucker Apr 2015 #437

That's precisely why I got frustrated with the lack of strike support here daredtowork Apr 2015 #438

Not just the GOP, it's a substantial fraction of the Democrats too Fumesucker Apr 2015 #440

Why would you think that I think you're a bad guy? daredtowork Apr 2015 #441

You seem to think I'm "falling for GOP propaganda" Fumesucker Apr 2015 #442

I read all of your links daredtowork Apr 2015 #443

Unions are simply necessary. WillTwain Apr 2015 #365

Get a thick skin and keep fighting for the common good. PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #429

Yup. I heard that too... you can tell he's not running again.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #202

Would it be too much to provide a quote and a link? BainsBane Apr 2015 #206

It is in the thread several times. WillTwain Apr 2015 #207

Yet not in the OP BainsBane Apr 2015 #208

You really do not want to read it. It is awful. A democratic president trashing unions like that. WillTwain Apr 2015 #210

Yet, you seem worried that this will reflect badly on Hillary. I find that odd. merrily Apr 2015 #267

Of course you wouldn't provide a link. Darb Apr 2015 #397

Did you watch the clip of him marginalizing unions? WillTwain Apr 2015 #448

here is the link� Demit Apr 2015 #244

BiBI, Do you have any input? Pretty damning vile comment. Think so? WillTwain Apr 2015 #283

As a 3rd generation Union Member I can say krawhitham Apr 2015 #214

Stop making sense. It will interrupt the ODS Darb Apr 2015 #401

Did you watch the clip of him marginalizing unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #447

His 'comfortable shoes' never came out of the box AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #219

He never bought them in the first place. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #221

Look who President Obama has aligned himself with in support of the TPP. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #222

Strange Bedfellows - I wonder what he thinks of Ayn Rand. WillTwain Apr 2015 #290

Comfortable shoes. merrily Apr 2015 #241

Baucus, the guy appointed to champion the ACA. WillTwain Apr 2015 #295

If advocates of a single payer Euro style health care system were allowed Enthusiast Apr 2015 #316

His ignorance is staggering. They gave us exactly what they wanted. He was complicit with them. WillTwain Apr 2015 #318

The President said, "It would be too expensive." We cannot afford not to do single-payer. More B.S. WillTwain Apr 2015 #320

Not only that, bvar22 Apr 2015 #361

In 21 months Baucas returns the favor. Big wheels keep on turning. WillTwain Apr 2015 #363

No, Rahm led the ACA before it ever got to Baucus. merrily Apr 2015 #424

Kick whereisjustice Apr 2015 #269

he never did put on those comfortable shoes... ND-Dem Apr 2015 #298

He doesn't own any steel toed boots. He is well-heeled. WillTwain Apr 2015 #300

Unions are not against trade. They are against the globalist free trade that has Zorra Apr 2015 #346

His statement is right out of the Republican playbook WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #366

Obama has Cheney in a secret bunker. WillTwain Apr 2015 #367

How many over-the-top stupid posts are you gonna make? Darb Apr 2015 #400

Unions love trade. moondust Apr 2015 #383

"global predation" BeanMusical Apr 2015 #386

More or less. moondust Apr 2015 #387

I think 90% of you pony piners misinterpreted his words. Darb Apr 2015 #399

Deliberately or because of laziness? AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #402

Well said, Darb. The admins will have some Monday morning reading, I suspect. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #403

Unrec. You Better Believe it! FSogol Apr 2015 #405

Hundreds of recs. WillTwain Apr 2015 #407

The Justin Bieber defense? FSogol Apr 2015 #409

It is interesting the difference between the thoughtful replies from the brilliant DUers that have WillTwain Apr 2015 #416

Maybe some us don't waste our time feeding the trolls? FSogol Apr 2015 #417

Yeah, that is it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #428

What is your definition of "trolls?" PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #431

Not far from my definition of sock puppet. FSogol Apr 2015 #433

Related to the "Third Way Democrats" -- if you are "Third Way" -- then just say it... PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #434

This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx Apr 2015 #408

Of course. No one represents labor anymore. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #410

Somebody called him the most disappointing president. WillTwain Apr 2015 #418

Indeed, they trembled with fear when they had the power. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #423

I really don't see this as a cheap shot against unions. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #454