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marym625

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106. seriously?

Sun Apr 19, 2015, 03:20 PM

Apr 2015

I am so tired of that non-argument.

Absolutely no where EVER did I come close to saying Republicans are better. Though there is very little discernible difference between HC and a socially conscious conservative.

We are 18 months away from the general election. I believe that Hillary Clinton is bad for America. She's bad for working people. She's bad for the poor. She has proven that with welfare reform. With her vote for the IWA. With her love of Wallstreet which seems to be greater every day.

I believe that Sanders and O'Malley have a chance.

I will fight tooth and nail to make sure HC does not become the nominee. And to take things like this and say we should support her because she's better than a Republican is EXACTLY the kind of obsequious bullshit the right wing does.

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Larry Summers� and the Secret "End-Game" Memo (collapse of the world economy) [View all] marym625 Apr 2015 OP

I remember when this first came out. Greg Palast is one hell of a investigative journalist. Autumn Apr 2015 #1

what about others on her "team"? OKNancy Apr 2015 #3

The others on her team don't matter to me. Autumn Apr 2015 #6

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #20

So because others did it, he should be let off the hook too? Rex Apr 2015 #129

I wouldn't defend Larry Summers if someone held a gun to my head. There are those Autumn Apr 2015 #137

Well you can tell who read the article and who did not, it doesn't even mention HRC. Rex Apr 2015 #140

Yep, the article was about Summers and not HRC. Right, they would sell their own Mothers Autumn Apr 2015 #145

Would it please them if we list all the major contacts Summers has had over his career? Rex Apr 2015 #199

You are confusing me marym625 Apr 2015 #202

No you misread that, not mad at all. Just pointing out that Summers hands are all over the place Rex Apr 2015 #204

oh good marym625 Apr 2015 #206

Well I think that is where some of the heated arguing comes from. Rex Apr 2015 #208

Bingo! marym625 Apr 2015 #210

Do you remember Brooksley Born? She warned that the crash was coming in 98 Autumn Apr 2015 #223

Lordy, that's weak. (nt) Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #39

There is nothing left in the tank for them. Rex Apr 2015 #130

How should we know who exactly she is listening to the most? If this document is true and I see jwirr Apr 2015 #41

It's real marym625 Apr 2015 #203

The others on her team are likely insiders too. zeemike Apr 2015 #56

'Some people catch on to the game, others not so much.' Rex Apr 2015 #131

Why would she choose someone like Larry Summers, aside from THIS, which if Palast knows sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #146

Oh my God I had forgotten about Brooksley. Autumn Apr 2015 #151

Brooksley Born was right, she was a brilliant woman. Greenspan was so disastrously wrong, along with sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #155

Disgusting and yet they are embraced by the very ones we elect Autumn Apr 2015 #158

If I were running, as Hillary is, I would seek out Brooksley Born and others who were RIGHT sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #162

Thanks for the link! marym625 Apr 2015 #205

You're welcome Mary. That documentary was excellent and should be required viewing by sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #207

It's like a bad movie marym625 Apr 2015 #209

btw marym625 Apr 2015 #211

You will find it gripping, I think. I am going to watch it again but like you, not tonight. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #212

omg marym625 Apr 2015 #213

I wouldn't assume that that is a 'young one' Lol! sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #214

I hope you are right marym625 Apr 2015 #215

They think it is awesome for us to argue back and forth Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #185

+1 marym625 Apr 2015 #201

Thank you, Autumn marym625 Apr 2015 #4

His book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy was one Autumn Apr 2015 #7

I have it marym625 Apr 2015 #9

Some people have an agenda to keep ingestigative reporting dead. They love these dumbass pundits Rex Apr 2015 #132

exactly why you never see him on US MSM. marym625 Apr 2015 #136

YEP. Always look for the people the M$M mocks and ridicules. They have a reason to be upset. Rex Apr 2015 #142

I read the memo QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #82

I read the memo when it came out. Larry Summers Autumn Apr 2015 #84

I am sure you did QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #86

You go right on ahead and stick with that Autumn Apr 2015 #88

Ok, tell me what the bankers had to gain by the collapse of the world economy QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #98

What have they lost? cui bono Apr 2015 #109

They did not gain anything, nor did they lose much unless QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #116

We're not talking about the "employees" of the banks. We're talking about the wheelers cui bono Apr 2015 #121

Employees of the bank include the officers QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #139

While reading the OP.., PosterChild Apr 2015 #124

Sounds like a Code Name: END GAME Octafish Apr 2015 #173

Ask Joseph Stiglitz about Larry Summers asking: 'What would Goldman think of that? ' Octafish Apr 2015 #172

I never said Larry Summers was a crusader for the common man QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #189

Banks having the chance to make more money is "the whole ideal of capitalism"? Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #224

In capitalism the goal is to get the best return on your investment QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #225

Jump Baby Jump Caretha Apr 2015 #230

You are funny :) Caretha Apr 2015 #229

Exactly! Carolina Apr 2015 #220

Summers is one of about 200 who have talked to her OKNancy Apr 2015 #2

That is encouraging. Hoyt Apr 2015 #5

There is much more to that article marym625 Apr 2015 #8

yes, I read the whole thing and the fact that it is not entirely complimentary OKNancy Apr 2015 #11

You realize that you did exactly that marym625 Apr 2015 #13

you see, I think your argument is overblown and hyperbole OKNancy Apr 2015 #16

I posted an article about a very important thing marym625 Apr 2015 #18

What is so unusual about the Memo? QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #105

wow. just, wow. marym625 Apr 2015 #107

I don't understand your response QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #110

What color is the sky in the world you live in? hifiguy Apr 2015 #141

Please tell me what you think unicorns have been telling me QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #156

So the Republicans are better??? QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #103

seriously? marym625 Apr 2015 #106

A socially conscious conservative does not exist in today's Republican party. QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #120

Maybe not marym625 Apr 2015 #123

I look forward to the primary, it can only help the Democratic party QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #150

That I will agree with marym625 Apr 2015 #157

it would be nice to get past personalities and focus on policy that matters nashville_brook Apr 2015 #22

Well said marym625 Apr 2015 #25

Yep. And issues, not candidates, mobilize. DirkGently Apr 2015 #33

If someone doesn't marym625 Apr 2015 #40

And especially if they are allowed another generation to continue their games. However, since both jwirr Apr 2015 #49

We need Bernie. marym625 Apr 2015 #51

Thank you. I am an avid Sanders supporter and I was thinking that we do have some good jwirr Apr 2015 #54

I hope he runs marym625 Apr 2015 #55

Me too zeemike Apr 2015 #61

Unfortunately, she won't marym625 Apr 2015 #87

+1 cui bono Apr 2015 #152

Center for American Progess is the think tank Podesta founded, no? He's on her team, too. merrily Apr 2015 #65

Yes. marym625 Apr 2015 #89

Add her obvious buddy-buddy relationship with Blankfein hifiguy Apr 2015 #143

"Mr. Reich is one of some 200 economists and academics who have offered Mrs. Clinton ideas and rhett o rick Apr 2015 #30

You have proof of that? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #37

Take the Credit Card companies' influence on the Bankruptcy Bill of 2002 Octafish Apr 2015 #67

An opinion piece...seriously? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #69

Read it and you'll see it's filled with facts, used to base opinion. Octafish Apr 2015 #77

I believe I have seen you have to spell out marym625 Apr 2015 #115

''The darkest night is ignorance.'' -- Gautama Buddha Octafish Apr 2015 #126

Thank you, again! marym625 Apr 2015 #133

That doesn't work either. cui bono Apr 2015 #144

When Hillary was Senator from New York QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #193

That makes sense. So, what do you think of the family ties to Phil Gramm and UBS? Octafish Apr 2015 #222

Proof? H. Clinton, even though running for president, has been very quiet about her rhett o rick Apr 2015 #68

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #38

Fairly clear to me. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #45

scary and sad is right marym625 Apr 2015 #48

I trust your evaluations of the situation in the US today. My question: Is this what those saying jwirr Apr 2015 #52

Welcome to my world. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #64

Thank you. I remember when it was possible to believe in humane values based on love, jwirr Apr 2015 #70

Love, nurturance, compassion, awe, all these basic life-giving emotions-- Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #73

I am reading "Sustainable Happiness" right now. Very good book about this. jwirr Apr 2015 #74

Indeed it is. YES Magazine is also great. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #167

You might find this interesting too: Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #188

Thank you it is on my list. jwirr Apr 2015 #194

I very much respect your opinions marym625 Apr 2015 #118

I don't especially disagree with you, Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #170

lmao! marym625 Apr 2015 #174

+1. Time to abolish 30 years of Reaganism, neoliberal economics, somehow- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #72

^^^^^+100000000^^^^^ woo me with science Apr 2015 #102

I feel very alone marym625 Apr 2015 #122

On that I think we are all feeling kind of alone and that is terrible. We are DU. We need each other jwirr Apr 2015 #168

When people start acting like bringing up legitimate issues is a bad thing marym625 Apr 2015 #169

That is very true. The gop is going to go all the way because they have nothing to lose. jwirr Apr 2015 #171

exactly marym625 Apr 2015 #175

That, too, is carefully cultivated. woo me with science Apr 2015 #178

I can see so much of that in my life. I am 73 live in a room in one of my grandson's home. He is jwirr Apr 2015 #186

Here's Chomsky Links if you want to check out...and his You Tube Videos/interviews: KoKo Apr 2015 #227

Thank you. jwirr Apr 2015 #228

Truly powerful TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #247

Yep. I come here woo me with science Apr 2015 #179

They've got the guns marym625 Apr 2015 #181

Every day, bring at least one more along. woo me with science Apr 2015 #183

Yes, we sure do marym625 Apr 2015 #184

I think the "sappifying" of discussion of love, nurturance, etc. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #176

I think you're right. woo me with science Apr 2015 #177

I guess they know the value of their own souls, Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #180

Have I ever told you woo me with science Apr 2015 #182

Flattery will get you Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #190

Let's call it what it really is woo me Caretha Apr 2015 #231

...! KoKo Apr 2015 #226

Everyone needs to read this.. sendero Apr 2015 #10

couldn't agree more marym625 Apr 2015 #12

I have never been a good "capitalist." chervilant Apr 2015 #21

I'm so sorry marym625 Apr 2015 #27

Reach out if you need. Plenty of us aren't too secure economically & otherwise nowdays. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #42

Yup! Plucketeer Apr 2015 #62

Problem for Americans Thespian2 Apr 2015 #14

yep. marym625 Apr 2015 #15

+1 nt laundry_queen Apr 2015 #234

''...to rip apart financial regulation across the planet...'' Octafish Apr 2015 #17

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #19

Like this Autumn Apr 2015 #23

Perfect! marym625 Apr 2015 #24

LOL! I think we're all now targeted. Octafish Apr 2015 #44

That's perfect marym625 Apr 2015 #47

Thank you! Octafish Apr 2015 #46

The ripping is already done. TPP is to consolidate corporate power over the world. jwirr Apr 2015 #57

+1 Depaysement Apr 2015 #66

Anybody who invites Summers into the henhouse will not get my support. Fuddnik Apr 2015 #26

Yes marym625 Apr 2015 #28

Summers has done enough damage for several lifetimes. No more hen house! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #101

Palast is allowing free download of Vultures and Vote Rustlers marym625 Apr 2015 #148

The game is rigged - George Carlin was right... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #29

Carlin had it nailed a long time ago marym625 Apr 2015 #31

Same here... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #90

sure was marym625 Apr 2015 #96

Larry Summers is a privateer. JEB Apr 2015 #32

and he is excellent at his job. marym625 Apr 2015 #35

Correct, 'privateer' is the nice name for PIRATE going way back- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #43

Actually, the difference between a privateer and a pirate is that the former Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #50

I know, the privateer is govt-state sanctioned, the pirate isn't. But they're both Thieves. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #53

Kicking this. calimary Apr 2015 #34

Big time bastards! marym625 Apr 2015 #36

Kissinger, Summers what next Rumsfled and Rice for Hillary? How spineless Democrats go along whereisjustice Apr 2015 #58

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #221

Greenspan, Summers and Bubba were the team that lobbied Congress to repeal Glass Steagall. merrily Apr 2015 #59

Think how different things would have been if they had just left FDR's Glass Steagall alone. The jwirr Apr 2015 #60

I don't understand why anyone would hire Summers after that ginormous mistake. merrily Apr 2015 #63

Oh, silly Merrily--that was no mistake. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #75

Sigh. You're probably right. As cynical as I think I have become, I am still too naive. merrily Apr 2015 #76

Thanks for the opening. I haven't quoted Lilly Tomlin in months. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #79

That's exactly how I feel. Then again, as o 2007, I still thought all I had to do to fix the US was merrily Apr 2015 #80

You're in good company. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #85

you certainly are not alone in this. I really opened my eyes in the 2004 bbgrunt Apr 2015 #108

Confirmation. Thanks. kairos12 Apr 2015 #71

You're welcome marym625 Apr 2015 #91

K&R Some resist, some assist. raouldukelives Apr 2015 #78

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #92

The Obama White House is helping bankers finish the game. pa28 Apr 2015 #81

exactly! marym625 Apr 2015 #93

And then there's the heavy involvement of Alan Greenspan... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #83

Big time marym625 Apr 2015 #95

What could motivate someone to create such devastation? Enthusiast Apr 2015 #94

money marym625 Apr 2015 #97

Greed - the most powerful, insidious and destructive addiction in the world. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #160

Evil. polichick Apr 2015 #99

You said it! marym625 Apr 2015 #100

+100000000 woo me with science Apr 2015 #104

And for me, Woo, it's no longer an option. n/t Efilroft Sul Apr 2015 #166

K&R woo me with science Apr 2015 #111

Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #112

And now that same financial elite wants us to give up our rights to a jury JDPriestly Apr 2015 #113

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #114

Kick. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #117

Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #119

Maybe Greg Palast is Rand Paul's sorce... PosterChild Apr 2015 #125

I truly hope you are being sarcastic marym625 Apr 2015 #187

Of course.. PosterChild Apr 2015 #233

so truth is not something you look for. marym625 Apr 2015 #235

For some reason . .. PosterChild Apr 2015 #237

This truth is exactly that, truth marym625 Apr 2015 #238

LOL, "Prove it wrong" ... PosterChild Apr 2015 #239

Wow! marym625 Apr 2015 #240

Like Greg Palast... PosterChild Apr 2015 #241

I'm obviously correct marym625 Apr 2015 #242

LOL In your own judgmement ! (nm) PosterChild Apr 2015 #243

Again, just showing you don't know what you are talking about marym625 Apr 2015 #244

Thanks... PosterChild Apr 2015 #245

I will put this as concisely as I can. hifiguy Apr 2015 #127

I'm good with tonight marym625 Apr 2015 #134

I oppose the death penalty hifiguy Apr 2015 #138

I won't pretend I'm not conflicted marym625 Apr 2015 #154

K & R dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #128

Me too marym625 Apr 2015 #135

It's a serious question that we would do well to dig into dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #153

If you look at some of the replies to this post marym625 Apr 2015 #159

Yes I've seen them all a million times dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #161

I find it abhorrent marym625 Apr 2015 #163

Sadly, I think it is, to some extent, ... dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #164

Pretty much the message I get. marym625 Apr 2015 #165

Oh yeah I left out bashing Republicans dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #191

exactly how I feel marym625 Apr 2015 #195

OK, likewise. dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #197

logged in to rec BelgianMadCow Apr 2015 #147

Well thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #149

kick midnight Apr 2015 #192

Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #196

This may be a naive question but if Hillary is doing the bidding of the one percent why are the Koch demgrrrll Apr 2015 #198

The Kochs and their extraordinary funds marym625 Apr 2015 #200

New World Order blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #216

URL: http://www.wmcpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Big-Brother-is-watching-you.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #217

We're you trying to post a second picture? marym625 Apr 2015 #219

Perfect marym625 Apr 2015 #218

Believe me Caretha Apr 2015 #232

That's very interesting marym625 Apr 2015 #236

Interesting. Quantess Apr 2015 #246

Yes marym625 Apr 2015 #248

We're fucked. Quantess Apr 2015 #249

Same here. No kids marym625 Apr 2015 #250