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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 03:53 PM Apr 2015

Something for the Anti-Clinton Camp to Keep In Mind When You Feel Belittled [View all]

I am sorry that some real liberals who can not stand Clinton feel that they are being discriminated against at DU. I am sorry that you feel as if you are the victim of a witch hunt or vendetta or a smoke-filled back room coordinated offensive to deprive you of your free speech and your vote. But remember, nothing occurs in a vacuum, and context counts.

The anti-anti-Hillary crowd is not being masterminded by anyone in a corporate office. The anti-anti-Hillarys are speaking up on their own. Because they remember 1972. They remember when Dick Nixon and Pat Buchanan manipulated the press---and Democratic voters---into ignoring their most general election viable candidates and throwing all their eggs into a basket which the GOP had already filled with holes in preparation for the general. Tactics which have been recycled again and again. They remember 1968, when a lack of Democratic solidarity cost this country six more years in Vietnam, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, Kent State and a whole lot of other pain.

So, no, none of you personally is on the payroll of CREEP II or CREEP IX or whatever the GOP smoke filled back room is calling itself this time. None of you have personally gotten the memo with the GOP talking point du jour---Hillary is Insincere.--in your inbox. None of you is anything other than you seem---

But, from the perspective of someone who does not know you, someone who can not see your face, when you start trying to tear down the most popular Democratic candidate we have---well, warning bells go off. Because we have been burned before and many of us have vowed never to get burned again.

Here's my advice. Read Hunter S. Thompson's "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72." Then read his essays about Watergate. Then, when you sit down to spell out your issues with Clinton, you will know exactly how to phrase your ideas without giving anyone the wrong idea. Note--that means no character attacks. Anytime anyone starts indulging in character attacks, be very, very afraid. The GOP does not slime on issues. They attack character. Phrases like "war hawk" and "corporate" sound an awful lot like a GOP Big Lie, like Gore is a Liar or Kerry is a Waffler. ALL politicians will support some war, sometime---think WWII. All politicians take some money from some rich people---think Soros.

Yes, it is a pity that we can not all write exactly what we think and be believed. But if we believed everything that was written, the entire US Gross National Product would not be the property of some guy in Nigeria.




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I don't feel discriminated against by HRC supporters. I strongly oppose her cali Apr 2015 #1
+1 AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #4
Funny thing. Pat Buchanan was a good buddy of Thompson, too. McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #6
why is it a funny thing that "Pat Buchanan was a good buddy of Thompson, TOO? cali Apr 2015 #9
That was assinine. Marr Apr 2015 #23
pretty funny, actually. Taylor piously explains to us about how we shouldn't cali Apr 2015 #29
+1 n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #31
Fortunate really. zeemike Apr 2015 #39
Amen and thank you. n/t jaysunb Apr 2015 #10
My sentiments, exactly. Taylorz Apr 2015 #24
Discuss the issues in a proactive fashion. FarPoint Apr 2015 #33
I see some people bashing those who do not support Hillary at this time and what's funny is Autumn Apr 2015 #2
Pardon me. Who did I attack--other than GOPers who "slime"? McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #3
Okay Autumn Apr 2015 #5
so we're allowed to criticize as long as we word it the way you want us to. No thanks. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #7
You misunderstand me. You can write anything you want. DU is allowed to distrust YOU McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #8
LOL. "DU is allowed to distrust you". Big of you to cali Apr 2015 #11
Voting for the war in Iraq is a legitimate criticism. 99% of the criticisms I have heard on DU have liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #12
Word it any way you like, just know that if your criticism sounds like the right wing okaawhatever Apr 2015 #14
my criticism does not sound right wing, and I still get compared to them. It is a tactic to try liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #16
Repond however you wish, but know that if your response is full of disdain for the left cui bono Apr 2015 #19
but it's OK for the op to lump me together with Pat Buchanan, right? cali Apr 2015 #30
I don't feel bad...The mob made Socrates drink the hemlock, nailed Jesus to a cross... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #13
Excuse me? Now we're being compared to the mob that killed Jesus and burned Joan of Arc? liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #15
You're accusing me of being a bully to diminish, demean, dehumanize, and demoralize me is ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #17
You may think whatever you like of me. I am voting for Bernie Sanders and I am putting you liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #22
The only thing more ugly than naked aggression is passive aggression . DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #25
All you can do is sit back and laugh at the ridiculousness of some (not all) Hillary supporters. The name calling certainly does not reflect well on their so-called "champion." InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #42
Not sure how one can be discriminated against on DU except by groups... cui bono Apr 2015 #18
Amen to that. djean111 Apr 2015 #28
Kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2015 #20
Prepare for Incoming. I'm ready: freshwest Apr 2015 #21
Most ....perceptive comment here. pangaia Apr 2015 #38
Never occurred to me to feel "discriminated against". Much less "belittled". Bwah! djean111 Apr 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #27
What phrases, pray tell, will be acceptable to the anti-anti-Clinton camp? Jim Lane Apr 2015 #32
great post, as are so many others of your posts cali Apr 2015 #35
Thanks. So right. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #40
So HRC is the victim of some grand plan, but Doctor_J Apr 2015 #34
there really is a vast right wing conspiracy. mopinko Apr 2015 #36
I want to be very positive. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #37
I find efforts at belittlement from thirdwayers/HC supporters as amusing stupidicus Apr 2015 #41
+1 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #43
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