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maxsolomon

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13. I understand the popularity of this story, but it is not applicable everywhere.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:38 PM
Apr 2015

There's an element of magical thinking here, as if the solution is "Just Do It". As the article states, "it's not that simple".

First, you must have "homes" (apartments) to "give". Seattle, for instance, has years-long waitlists. So do Housing Authorities in surrounding communities, even far out on the periphery of urban areas.

Second, you must have money to fund this approach, and particularly to BUILD new units to put the homeless into. A lot of money. That is not forthcoming in any state with the GOP in control of any branch of the government, and it's not coming from the Feds anytime soon, either. The article notes that construction of new units in UT has fallen off a cliff: 600 per year for 3 years, then 121 the 4th.

Third, look at the chart in the article. Yes, CHRONIC Homelessness was reduced, but not eliminated. And the overall rate and that of families? Not seeing a real downward trend there.

When I look around in Seattle, the fastest-growing city in America, what do I see? A marked influx of homeless in the last 6 months, an overwhelming number. I see people camping anywhere and everywhere. I see lines outside the service centers. This problem is getting worse, and with a feel-good story like this, the Devil is in the details.

And pretty soon, the newly-homed are in positions to become contributing members of society. Octafish Apr 2015 #1
Well, Octafish, my pleasure. You flatter me! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
Yep. Sometimes there are simple answers. hifiguy Apr 2015 #41
San Francisco could easily do this yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #3
Yeah, true blue SF hasn't thought of this? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
Seattle did. They were widely dissed by talk radio for building a 'drunk motel' for people who were freshwest Apr 2015 #9
And, that's the rub...the puritan mind-twist is so strong in the 'Murcan psyche. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
Yes, and I need to spell check there! When in a hurry, mistakes happen. freshwest Apr 2015 #11
What is this 'social Darwinism' you speak of? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #12
Social Darwinim is the survival of the fittest economically, eugenics by wealth. Very Ayn Rand but freshwest Apr 2015 #18
I was trying to be ironic, fresh. I guess I should have used Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #19
I suspected you were using it, but wanted to explain it in case some were NEVER taught about it. freshwest Apr 2015 #25
Punitive, petty, conservative mindset. Exactly. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #26
Right wingers judgmental and punitive as always treestar Apr 2015 #36
It must be a cultural thing. The expression was Christianity 101 when I was growing up. freshwest Apr 2015 #45
.... LittleBlue Apr 2015 #39
we don't have vacant homes in San Francisco CreekDog Apr 2015 #20
I believe you addressed this to the wrong person? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #21
I didn't take it as "shaming" San Francisco... where I also live and (luckily) own a home. deurbano Apr 2015 #23
Thank you. K&R woo me with science Apr 2015 #4
You're welcome. This system should become best practice in all Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
“If you want to end homelessness, you put people in housing...” freshwest Apr 2015 #6
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
You know, I bet we could solve hunger the same way. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #35
I understand the popularity of this story, but it is not applicable everywhere. maxsolomon Apr 2015 #13
I see you are of the 'glass half empty' school. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #16
Well said, Surya Gayatri! And thank you for this thread. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #28
My pleasure, Enthusiast! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #31
that hardly follows reddread Apr 2015 #42
book marking for later reading Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #14
LA is doing this Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #15
Well, if they can't ELIMINATE homelessness in one go, I guess Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17
just beware that people are using the rubric of housing first reddread Apr 2015 #22
Would that not be fraudulent use of federal monies? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #24
is there any other kind? reddread Apr 2015 #33
Sorry, was this intended as an answer to my question about the Utah Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #34
I cannot speak to the Utah experience reddread Apr 2015 #40
I worked for a homeless agency for eight years. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #27
When will we learn to invest in human potential rather than Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29
Exactly! JDPriestly Apr 2015 #30
What an excellent post! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #32
That also goes against the right wing meme treestar Apr 2015 #37
Very well said... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #38
The image of the man in the snow storm should go viral, like the story. freshwest Apr 2015 #43
Yes, spread the word. Many grateful people there. libdem4life Apr 2015 #44
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