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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. Depends... who you read
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

some social contract theories look at this from a point of view of a society and how that society derives rights from what members want. That would be closer to both the views of John Locke and even some of the French revolutionaries.

Thomas Hobbes was more of the state of nature and how we chose to live in society to avoid it. It was a more authoritarian way of seeing life.

In modern terms, the social contract has evolved. And I prefer John Rawls ideas that all derives from a sense of justice and a search for justice. Of course in the Rawlian way of looking at things, police and police powers figure highly, since they come out of a collective need, and the society has a right to control police. Police derives from us, as a society and should be controlled by us. Johan Rawls is just fascinating and highly recommended.

And if you want to go to the edge of this, explore critical race theory, and how race actually influences a lot of our lives, even in a "post racial era." It also explores some of what i like to call on the edge of things, and how minority - majority interactions happen.

The Internet Encyclopedia of philosophy is a good intro, but you will not find critical race in there, I think partly because it originally started in law.

Though they do go into feminist theory, which is a while different kettle of fish.

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Man, if anybody here would take a stab at this or even took the time to tell me to piss off Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #1
Sorry, not something I am knowledgeable in. Interesting though. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #2
Thanks for replying. Feels a little less lonely now. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #3
I believe it is a contract among individuals PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #4
That makes sense. So we are the principles. We create the government and empower the governement Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #8
I have not read the book, but I think this is addressed in 'The Social Contract' Raine1967 Apr 2015 #5
Thank you. I'll check it out. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #13
here is something else that might be of assistance: Raine1967 Apr 2015 #6
Contract theory is a horrbile theoretical basis for a society. rug Apr 2015 #7
I very much appreciate your input and will be reading at the link shortly. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #12
I believe your premise is correct. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #18
A social contract is agreement among individuals in a society on point Apr 2015 #9
As I remember it from ~40 years ago, society needed a division of roles... HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #10
Thank you. You just made me think of Rawls' veil of ignorance for determining whether police action Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #15
Depends... who you read nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #11
I'm thinking Rousseau wrote similar things to what the OP is thinking... HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #14
Yeah, but he should look at Rawls nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #16
I was just thinking about Rawls. I'm not well read in his work but I am aware of his "original Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #17
You welcome, I discovered rawls during Occupy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #19
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