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NuclearDem

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4. No, it's not.

Sun Apr 19, 2015, 11:59 PM

Apr 2015

Playing Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball isn't going to make you a misogynist piece of shit. But if you already were a misogynist piece of shit, you'd feel right at home when you do play it. And that is the real problem: that video games do tend to fit in a sexist's comfort zone.

Video games don't make people sexist anymore than they make people violent. Nobody in the gaming community believes they do for a second.

However, developers and publishers absolutely do pander to the sexist and homophobic, whether it's intentional or just because they don't have the talent to move beyond easily-digestible stereotypes. Which was the whole point of Sarkeesian's videos.

Yes, sexists will play video games, but that doesn't mean developers have to pander to them. They're a minority anyway, and developers can sell much more not appealing to them.

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Long term study: No link found between video games and real-world sexism [View all] davidn3600 Apr 2015 OP

Wait, so this study is saying Sarkeesian et al TM99 Apr 2015 #1

She is really just another Jack Thompson NobodyHere Apr 2015 #13

Some Video Games reflect hateful sexism el_bryanto Apr 2015 #22

I and my partner both like video games TM99 Apr 2015 #42

So in contrast to "some video games reflect hateful sexism" el_bryanto Apr 2015 #44

Video games no more reflect hateful sexism TM99 Apr 2015 #53

And like all of those things, literature, film and music, it is open to criticism el_bryanto Apr 2015 #55

Several of the foundation theories, TM99 Apr 2015 #57

I'm sorry, but the very existence of Team Ninja as a studio disproves that "no misogyny" nonsense. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #61

Do you even play games or know the history of these franchises? TM99 Apr 2015 #62

Team Ninja did one Metroid game. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #67

Yeah, ok. TM99 Apr 2015 #71

Well, she is a really fucking smart grifter LOL...find a fringe movement of really angry people snooper2 Apr 2015 #48

Yeah, few here seem to actually know the facts of who she is TM99 Apr 2015 #54

Except for the very extreme nuts who also believe video games cause violence NuclearDem Apr 2015 #2

Which is basically saying the same thing Major Nikon Apr 2015 #3

No, it's not. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #4

So you think Sarkeesian's point is to tell developers how to sell more video games Major Nikon Apr 2015 #5

No, that's not what I said. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #29

Well this is what she said, which doesn't seem as ambiguous as you might think Major Nikon Apr 2015 #35

The study is limited ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #40

Not as limited as anything that contradicts it Major Nikon Apr 2015 #45

Sarkeesian believes the games cause the sexism davidn3600 Apr 2015 #6

There's more Major Nikon Apr 2015 #7

Good Lord but that woman is tedious... Oktober Apr 2015 #12

Think you're conflating two different things. DirkGently Apr 2015 #28

There is very disturbing trends with SIM games ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #33

I don't think 'cause' is either part or parcel of sanitizing or cultural expression. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #52

If the game doesn't create or perpetuate sexism in real life, then what's the problem? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #59

It's lazy and sloppy writing. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #60

Ask again when we live in a post sexist society ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #31

I think it's better to ask what really determines cause and effect Major Nikon Apr 2015 #34

Huh. ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #38

Here's a link davidn3600 Apr 2015 #36

Awesome--thank you ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #37

thank you. that was the obvious. i didnt want to jump in. thank you for clarifying. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #8

I didn't think that was the question either. DirkGently Apr 2015 #26

It's obnoxious. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #30

How about we all split this down the middle. I think its good that Sarkeesian raised awareness stevenleser Apr 2015 #9

I agree with this assessment renegade000 Apr 2015 #11

Just curious, do you think FOX News influences the American public? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #15

Interesting attempt at a non-sequitur. People ostensibly watch News to BE influenced by facts. stevenleser Apr 2015 #17

Media influences perceptions. That is a directly observable fact. And people watch news KittyWampus Apr 2015 #46

The link is not a peer reviewed study on what we are discussing and so it isn't empirical data. stevenleser Apr 2015 #49

The author of the study specifically stated that one of the limitations when interpreting findings seaglass Apr 2015 #10

Nobody is staying that sexism is good Major Nikon Apr 2015 #16

Of course they fucking do. alarimer Apr 2015 #21

The empirical data says otherwise Major Nikon Apr 2015 #23

You are getting into other things like stereotypes in writing davidn3600 Apr 2015 #27

have you actually played any games lately? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #43

I was playing Lego again with my 5 year old daughter last night snooper2 Apr 2015 #50

Fuck the Oscars, that's all I can say. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #63

I love the Lego games. tammywammy Apr 2015 #68

What video games have you actually played that reinforce sexism? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #18

Legend of Zelda, the only ones I play. n/t seaglass Apr 2015 #24

I've never played Legend of Zelda, so I have no idea if there is sexism in it or not. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #25

No link between Rush Limbaugh & FOX New and teabag nuttery. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #14

People tune into video games expecting fantasy and getting what they expect. Major Nikon Apr 2015 #19

People tune into various media for various reasons. Some conscious others not consciously recognized KittyWampus Apr 2015 #47

And yet we are still responsible for our own actions Major Nikon Apr 2015 #56

Okay, so .... Serious question? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #64

No but the games often are alarimer Apr 2015 #20

If there were racism in video games, BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #32

It wouldn't, and anyone who claimed otherwise would be run off DU kcr Apr 2015 #39

Wrong! TM99 Apr 2015 #41

There isn't racism in video games? gollygee Apr 2015 #51

Like a great many topics, these subjects are chosen again and again... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #58

That's obvious. Only obsessed nanny state types blame violence and sexism on games. LittleBlue Apr 2015 #65

Well, let's wait until Jenny McCarthy weighs in on this with her real science WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #66

Long term study: No link found between slavery and real-world racism. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #69

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