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drmeow

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143. same here

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:15 AM

Apr 2015

Used to be a member of the communist party but found that I wasn't actually THAT left (this was over 15 years ago and I seem to recall something about not voting in the election for some ideological reason and I said eff that, I'm not giving up what little democratic power I have and handing things over to the right for a principle). I guess I would consider myself a socialist feminist if I had to label myself.

I think FDR was a little further from center than you suggest but his economic bill of rights would have needed to be passed for him to have truly been much off center.

I fear for the country and for the world in general which seems to have swung further back to the right (relatively, depending on how far left a country had gotten) than I am comfortable with. I hope it can swing back the other way but I don't think it will be in time to make a difference in my life.

I'm both terrified and in stunned disbelief of my fellow citizens and country.

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"The Far Left"? WTF? [View all] DerekG Apr 2015 OP

I don't call people far left. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

Ditto here AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #2

Next time hear it used ask WTF it means. Like the liberal media i guess bjobotts Apr 2015 #70

Bill O'Reilly uses that term to describe everyone on the left. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #72

Lots Of Right Wing Democrats Posting On DU billhicks76 Apr 2015 #95

How do you define rw though? Yes there are posters that make me scratch my head and I think they hrmjustin Apr 2015 #109

Clearly, the Democratic Party has a right wing and a left wing. merrily Apr 2015 #186

IMO, the "far left" are the ones who blindly support the likes of Maduro, 7962 Apr 2015 #274

Putin? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2015 #299

Hey, merrily simply asked for an opinion. 7962 Apr 2015 #324

You're Joking Right? billhicks76 Apr 2015 #302

The question was asked what one considered far left; 7962 Apr 2015 #322

No, I asked no question at all. merrily Apr 2015 #339

Well, you said "ask them" so that implies a question. 7962 Apr 2015 #345

My suggesting others ask someone a question is not the same as my asking a question. merrily Apr 2015 #346

Thank you. Sorry about the misrepresentation 7962 Apr 2015 #363

You think Putin is leftist? LOL! Man, with confusion like that I can see how any Dem not corporate Dragonfli Apr 2015 #305

Did you read the post I replied to at all? Or my answer? 7962 Apr 2015 #323

oh no, I caught all that, just your thought than anyone that supports Putin is a leftist Dragonfli Apr 2015 #326

Well, I can give you a couple examples, 7962 Apr 2015 #327

Thanks for the link, I'l look into it Dragonfli Apr 2015 #328

I don't get it, that appears to be anti Putin, not a kind word was spoken about him Dragonfli Apr 2015 #329

the old "US is always at fault" type posts LiberalLovinLug Apr 2015 #360

I stated that we've made our share of mistakes. 7962 Apr 2015 #364

No, the post to which you replied did not ask anything. merrily Apr 2015 #340

Find me a post of mine that blindly supports Maduro, Putin or, for that matter, that blindly merrily Apr 2015 #338

Right wing democrats put social issues ahead of economic issues - particularly unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #276

I find economic and social issues to be of equal importance Dragonfli Apr 2015 #330

It is sad. WillTwain Apr 2015 #358

If we believe in single payer universal health care they call us Fringe Left. Same as Far Left. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #149

Right-wing Democrats often have little time for unions. WillTwain Apr 2015 #279

Obviously the ones who've been brainwashed by the librul media. arikara Apr 2015 #303

RW Democrats Support... billhicks76 Apr 2015 #362

No, most liberals believe in that treestar Apr 2015 #315

I can say anything I want. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #344

Oxymorons IMHO. nt brush Apr 2015 #228

those Democrats think they are on the left treestar Apr 2015 #313

But to be fair, you're a big fan MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #76

Excuse me sir? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #77

Has Hillary Clinton coddled Wall Street? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #81

NY senators always have relationships with wall street as have Democratic presidents. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #83

OK, so what I wrote is correct? nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #86

Schumer I am not a fan of but Clinton while not an enemy of Wall Street is not going to bow to them hrmjustin Apr 2015 #98

Show me a shred of evidence that she as challenged Wall Street. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #102

I think she just did by saying we need a new constitutional amendment to get rid of citizens united. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #110

Yes and candidate Obama said that we needed to roll back the Patriot Act. The nice label is rhett o rick Apr 2015 #118

Thats fair. i would like to raise taxes on them as well. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #119

They claimed they couldn't even pass a public option, but she's going to amend the Constitution? merrily Apr 2015 #180

Well played. hifiguy Apr 2015 #283

Thank you, merrily Apr 2015 #336

And lest we forget.... Plucketeer Apr 2015 #267

that's quite an easy thing to say. how long ERA has languished? 40 years? nashville_brook Apr 2015 #131

She is now on the record. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #132

Her opinion as president would not matter since the president is not JDPriestly Apr 2015 #136

She can use the bully pulpit. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #137

And, when it doesn't happen, we'll hear she is not king. Civics class. Congress. Blah, blah, blah. merrily Apr 2015 #206

Well I am a bit more hopeful but I understand that people are doubtful about it passing with reason. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #234

If you think Hillary's not doubtful about it passing, I have a few bridges in my inventory. merrily Apr 2015 #236

I am sure she has her doubts. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #252

!00% doubt merrily Apr 2015 #256

But what would attract the most press and public attention? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #281

The press will never be fair to her. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #282

And there is plenty to ridicule her about. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #285

Warren, Sanders, and O'Malley have vulnerabilities. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #287

Yes. But there is a particularly vicious strain of criticism of Hillary. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #288

Sorry but Clinton has been tried and tested. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #289

She has been tried and tested and lost. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #292

You are not being rude. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #293

Which makes it the ideal campaign strategy. That and 76% want it. merrily Apr 2015 #191

Just like Obama was on the record for a strong public option being the only way. merrily Apr 2015 #187

This is the problem for Hillary. Obama misled voters on so many issues, Democrats are gun shy. WillTwain Apr 2015 #280

Then, don't vote for Obama for POTUS in 2016. merrily Apr 2015 #337

ERA was much less controversial and is dead. merrily Apr 2015 #181

If she does get in, using her first year to pass a renewed ERA would be both in character and Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #193

Reality check. That statement by Hillary does not stand up to analysis. Not even a little. merrily Apr 2015 #179

She will bow awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #140

An unhealthy relationship. Unhealthy for the people of the nation. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #150

Elizabeth Warren is a Fan of Schumer also JI7 Apr 2015 #133

But not a fan of Wall Street, which is much more to the point merrily Apr 2015 #182

I see that the major divide is between the Progressives and Conservatives. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #120

I don't care for TTP and detest fracking. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #122

Where are you on unions? Would you fight for union members? WillTwain Apr 2015 #278

That the left of the Democratic Party is the ideological far, far left is such bull pucky. merrily Apr 2015 #188

Those that try to disparage the Left with the label "Far Left" refuse to actually explain why rhett o rick Apr 2015 #248

On one hand, they pretend liberals are bomb-throwing trotskyites. On the other merrily Apr 2015 #259

I think they're people with an (ahem) agenda who use that term. valerief Apr 2015 #3

And Candadians BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #10

Are those the ones with yeast infections? cui bono Apr 2015 #17

Or owners Depaysement Apr 2015 #36

Dude I'm crying *cough* Phlem Apr 2015 #85

... BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #213

Not the dreaded Candadians! Run for your lives! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #151

. Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #333

Eeyup. hifiguy Apr 2015 #16

Yep! Same here, ignore them as appropriate! Anyone can join DU. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #30

Exactly. jwirr Apr 2015 #50

! 2naSalit Apr 2015 #58

I'd love to know who pays the left of the Democratic Party. merrily Apr 2015 #194

Oh snap, 0-7? Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #197

Love the juror who said the alerter might be a paid shill. merrily Apr 2015 #200

More likely the paid shills are the ones blasting the Democratic party treestar Apr 2015 #166

No one pays to attack center right Dems from the left. Quite the opposite. merrily Apr 2015 #215

No one's a paid shill on DU treestar Apr 2015 #241

Baloney. merrily Apr 2015 #245

Actually, they usually thrown in at least one more modifier, much as Republicans do. merrily Apr 2015 #190

"wild-eyed latte-drinking Volvo-driving, birkenstock wearing liberals" PassingFair Apr 2015 #253

Sounds more like a New Democrat. merrily Apr 2015 #257

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #264

And not only Marxist communism (with all the tendencies that entails) ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #284

You can make money posting on here!?!?!!???!!? LiberalElite Apr 2015 #321

Failure to lockstep with Cersei. Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #4

LOL! PennyK Apr 2015 #66

Well done. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #152

You have been awarded the internets. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #175

LOL! good one! (n/t) bread_and_roses Apr 2015 #217

I call myself far left because I am, Warpy Apr 2015 #5

Same feeling here. I view it as a politically unstable country. And the middle ground is going away RKP5637 Apr 2015 #32

Dont worry, the far right scares the average voter a lot more!! 7962 Apr 2015 #45

Yeah, that's why the far right did so poorly in the last election Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #141

That wasnt a national election. Easier to win in gerymandered districts 7962 Apr 2015 #185

It's not just gerrymandering Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #196

But Hillary still has a huge lead over any GOP candidate. 7962 Apr 2015 #243

A lead over a hypothetical opponent doesn't mean diddly this far out Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #247

I wonder why so many "far left" voters are in states like Alaska, Nebraska, Arkansas, and S Dakota? cascadiance Apr 2015 #68

+100. it's bizarro world. and the media are bought and paid for. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #146

Once the minimum wage became a ballot initiative, it was no longer a partisan issue Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #155

I'm all for increasing the minimum wage, but let's bear in mind, merrily Apr 2015 #202

I often see people use a politician's rhetoric to raise min wage (as the only tool to help the poor) Dragonfli Apr 2015 #306

Great post Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #332

Yes. And anyone honest and awake sees what has been in mind for safety nets by merrily Apr 2015 #334

Owned outright, by military contractors. ronnie624 Apr 2015 #331

Right with ya there, Warpy. This country scares the shit out of me. The people here Nay Apr 2015 #79

couldn't agree more marym625 Apr 2015 #113

same here drmeow Apr 2015 #143

^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^ "This country is no longer rational in any way" Enthusiast Apr 2015 #153

yup. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #177

I'm with ya. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #286

You advocate for the confiscation of all private property, bvar22 Apr 2015 #296

Maybe it is the posters saying Hillary is not left enough, this may make someone far far left. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #6

Why? Whatever someone else is does not define what "far left" is. cui bono Apr 2015 #14

Hillary is center right at best, yet you keep redefining the spectrum Dragonfli Apr 2015 #21

This is a UK chart, use the charts created in the US like this one. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #24

Oh, LOL that pop chart based on answers to questions and other soft rhetoric Dragonfli Apr 2015 #28

It decides if you are libertarian or authoritarian. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #38

you either did not read my post or are clueless, I can help you with neither. Dragonfli Apr 2015 #41

You say I am clueless, look at the chart you provided, does it have anything on the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #44

slightly left to mid Left=liberal (far left is red territory) - clueless it is then, go to the site Dragonfli Apr 2015 #56

I know what right and left means, the chart you furnished does not show conserative, moderate Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #63

it would reveal all that to you if you did understand right left etc. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2015 #64

Uh... yes, it does. Marr Apr 2015 #73

Yeah laundry_queen Apr 2015 #107

As Upton Sinclair observed, merrily Apr 2015 #223

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #219

There is a third possibility. merrily Apr 2015 #207

Libertarian as a political concept, not as the Libertarian party. It's how the scale works. Do you Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #94

My question is where is the Liberal, Moderate, Populists, or Conserative section. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #103

You will have to wait until the primaries to see a chart showing you the R and D players for 2016 Dragonfli Apr 2015 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #261

That's because it's several years out of date okasha Apr 2015 #124

the 2016 chart will come during the primaries Dragonfli Apr 2015 #128

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #205

That was a very thoughtful, intelligent, and patient answer to the poster's questions Dragonfli Apr 2015 #255

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #262

This really does need to be emphasized ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #291

Libertarian is the opposite of authoritarian Mnpaul Apr 2015 #310

Interesting thought rpannier Apr 2015 #34

Perhaps some would believe this but when you compare the charts of different people on the issues Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #47

Okay. Fair Enough rpannier Apr 2015 #57

Hillary is-- according to her-- a "centrist". Marr Apr 2015 #69

Actually from previous discussions I have learned that thinkingabout Dragonfli Apr 2015 #80

lots of contradictions there daredtowork Apr 2015 #123

See, you're not allowed to bring up what the candidate says about themselves, that's not fair. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #208

we were just talking about how the friction here nashville_brook Apr 2015 #7

We're tired of being told who to vote for and insulted and bullied when we dare question or liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #106

yes, and we're aware that not everyone here is rank and file nashville_brook Apr 2015 #129

Well said!! You should make this its own thread. JimDandy Apr 2015 #134

Didn't hurt, but the coronation attempt is far more incentive than anything that merrily Apr 2015 #209

To paraphrase Gore Vidal burrowowl Apr 2015 #8

+1 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #20

No, Eisenhower just had a public face that was very different from his private one. merrily Apr 2015 #210

How far left is too far? Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #9

According to the Turd Way shills hifiguy Apr 2015 #42

Where do I get my little Red Book? n/t Oldtimeralso Apr 2015 #54

Step out your back door, step 13 paces to the left, the Worlwide Red Menace Brotherhood Dragonfli Apr 2015 #117

I believe all of that as well... Moostache Apr 2015 #52

Whats a "completely public military"? 7962 Apr 2015 #53

I think and I could be speaking out of line but yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #61

I took it to mean no mercenaries or other contractors (I may be out of line as well but I think Dragonfli Apr 2015 #62

Oh, ok. I was thinking in a completely different direction!! 7962 Apr 2015 #78

What I mean is Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #144

I would agree with all of that but the draft. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #216

I agree. We have a great military force that is volunteer. 7962 Apr 2015 #246

Why not? Very few of our wars come out of nowhere, without any sort of foreshadowing. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #251

Because if we actually did that, everything would end up funded that way 7962 Apr 2015 #273

Really? We might get far more done. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #275

No mercenaries--like Blackwater/Xe/Academi or whatever they are calling themselves now Demeter Apr 2015 #239

An excellent list, particularly since "a completely public health system" sounds like an NHS pampango Apr 2015 #170

I like that FDR Liberal title...I've been a bit confused myself. I'm thinking about Democratic libdem4life Apr 2015 #11

Third Way is not synonymous with liberal or progressive if that's what you're saying. n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #15

Asking...I'd pretty much figured that one out...what used to be maybe a little left of libdem4life Apr 2015 #230

3rd way is exactly that. It's a break from either left or right. It tries to fall somewhere in the Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #101

You got it exactly right Dragonfli Apr 2015 #105

+1 Enthusiast Apr 2015 #157

That's a great description...thanks. I'll read it again. I see how it happened...I checked out libdem4life Apr 2015 #233

That's what I was used to, but I really resonate with Bernie's ideas, although I'll vote for a libdem4life Apr 2015 #231

Bernie Sanders may call himself a 'Democratic Sociaist' (and bliess his heart KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #112

Actually I've heard him compare himself to the European Social Democrats. libdem4life Apr 2015 #238

The far left Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #12

Blammo. hifiguy Apr 2015 #18

+1000! Fearless Apr 2015 #43

On DU, anyone railing against the "far left" is either absolutely ignorant Maedhros Apr 2015 #13

+1 When I see it utilized I laugh and see it as their attempt to give legitimacy to right wing/hawk Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #23

WORD. Think of the highest-profile person in the media who uses bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #59

Damn right. Some enjoy trying to upset FDR Democrats though. It's obvious. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #172

+1 merrily Apr 2015 #203

Or Canadian BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #224

All my Canadian friends are New Democrats which are to the left of the Liberals.[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #268

It's an inside DU joke BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #314

I suspect I know of whom you speak. Maedhros Apr 2015 #317

You're not missing anything BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #319

DUZY... Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #19

kr ND-Dem Apr 2015 #22

accountability only goes so far reddread Apr 2015 #25

I agree that left or far left is not an appropriate term BainsBane Apr 2015 #26

just laugh at them, don't take it seriously. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #27

bravo SHRED Apr 2015 #29

I've been called far left many times over the past decade rpannier Apr 2015 #31

It is just something stupid conservatives spit like venom regardless of party affiliation when TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #33

Oh my friend it's not just conservatives. Phlem Apr 2015 #90

No, at least for the most part that is who they are if they believe anything at all whatever they TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #121

+1 merrily Apr 2015 #221

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem Apr 2015 #254

You haven't seen on DU how treestar Apr 2015 #242

It is election season. That means it is going to get mean, nasty, and ugly. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #35

I was called worse today. Martin Eden Apr 2015 #37

Oh dear, I guess all of us that opposed the Iraq war need to purchase tri-cornered hats Dragonfli Apr 2015 #46

"TeaLeft Purist??" Hissyspit Apr 2015 #84

I was in a thread today where a poster compared us to the mob that killed Jesus and Joan of Arc. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #89

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE... Hissyspit Apr 2015 #91

DU is being colonized by disgustingus Scootaloo Apr 2015 #164

What is a 'TeaLeft purist'? That is some seriously demented foam-spitting KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #115

Thanks Martin Eden Apr 2015 #176

lol daredtowork Apr 2015 #126

TeaLeft purist? ROFLMFAOPIMP. merrily Apr 2015 #220

I'm so glad you spelled that one out...had me there for a minute...LOL Thanks for the chuckle. libdem4life Apr 2015 #250

My pleasure. I am 100% in favor of chuckles. merrily Apr 2015 #258

Time to clear my ignore list again so I can see which jackass this was LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #227

K&R! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #39

You don't think there are super-liberals who talk about "tearing down the whole system"? PBass Apr 2015 #40

I'll make them a better deal: Moostache Apr 2015 #48

Today's "moderate Democrats" and "centrist Democrats" hifiguy Apr 2015 #290

It bothers me to see "far left" used here in the same way Republicans use "far left." Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #49

It's not subtle like a dog-whistle...don't think it a dog whistle HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #51

That insult started about the time the president decided mandatory for-profit health insurance was Doctor_J Apr 2015 #55

There is a Far Left just as there is a Far Right Yorktown Apr 2015 #60

How about Wall St execs just go to prison like regular criminals? Enthusiast Apr 2015 #159

Didn't Madoff get sent to prison? Yorktown Apr 2015 #365

Madoff ripped off the wealthy so he had to be punished to set an example. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #368

Madoff robbed average folks too Yorktown Apr 2015 #372

Well, I wouldn't COMPLETELY dismiss "the lamppost solution". Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #211

Comrade Stalin, I've recognized you. Yorktown Apr 2015 #366

the swooners again? Skittles Apr 2015 #65

The 'far left' is any part of the part that is not on the right fringe of the party, according to Marr Apr 2015 #67

hem allan01 Apr 2015 #71

Maybe I'm just uninformed, but PBass Apr 2015 #74

The term Far Left is often used to insult, to suggest a poster has an unreasonable position. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #160

This ^^^^^ haikugal Apr 2015 #183

Well said MissDeeds Apr 2015 #75

"What in God's name constitutes "the far left?"" Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #82

Or Communists Phlem Apr 2015 #87

There needs to be more of us in charge. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #88

Hear, Hear! truebluegreen Apr 2015 #92

I think that is Bill O'Reilly's catch phrase MiniMe Apr 2015 #93

K&R! Big time! marym625 Apr 2015 #96

As a "far-left radical" I support far left radical ideas like Social Security and Medicare. Scuba Apr 2015 #97

lol, aint that the truth, +1 whereisjustice Apr 2015 #139

FDR liberal. I like that title. I'll wear that one proudly. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #99

critical of Hillary's corporate debt, I was called a leftist version of the tea party, but thruth is whereisjustice Apr 2015 #100

If they are hardened extremists they are not centrists. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #161

They are not centrists, they are personality cultists. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #270

Links? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #104

Cheerlearder, swooner, apologist, one_voice Apr 2015 #108

Yes, exactly treestar Apr 2015 #168

Good point. DU's "circular firing squad" puts much energy into insulting each other rather pampango Apr 2015 #171

the less factual stuff they have the more they have to rely on rhetoric MisterP Apr 2015 #111

I always say that it is far better than being a UpInArms Apr 2015 #116

People with no care in the world about America, they don't live here Rex Apr 2015 #125

I don't give a damn what lame venom they spit and will only refrain from labeling them Wall St TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #127

Some here seem to believe FDR was "Far Left". nt Zorra Apr 2015 #130

I too am an FDR Democrat. I am not a socialist although I back Bernie JDPriestly Apr 2015 #135

Depends on what you think moderate means. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #138

Just what the republicans love MFM008 Apr 2015 #142

Another thing the Republicans love? Maedhros Apr 2015 #271

Hope to hell that is not "Far Left" n/t bobGandolf Apr 2015 #145

You're incensed about "far left" but the so-called far left calls some DUers "RW" and there's the Cha Apr 2015 #147

Awwww. Poor Cha. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #169

Thank you, Derek. That is entirely accurate. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #148

"Far Left" is actually straight-up Communism. DetlefK Apr 2015 #154

Kennedy's Cold Warrior side was beginning to thaw deutsey Apr 2015 #156

That speech, and JFK's oft-reported intention to pull hifiguy Apr 2015 #294

I agree. deutsey Apr 2015 #295

and prior to that... ensemble Apr 2015 #307

Yep. When he came face to face with the logical consequences of Cold War hifiguy Apr 2015 #309

Kick! Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #158

This is just another version bvf Apr 2015 #162

Thank you DerekG! RiverLover Apr 2015 #163

...!!! KoKo Apr 2015 #301

theres a far right and a far left treestar Apr 2015 #165

Your second sentence is complete rubbish. So is your fourth, and your first, and your third. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #174

But it appears you have no answer treestar Apr 2015 #235

treestar you are on record as believing that the Wall Street economy improving is pretty much stillwaiting Apr 2015 #249

Democrats are not the far left. (LOL, who the fuck called Mittens liberal?) merrily Apr 2015 #218

The far right. treestar Apr 2015 #237

As to Mitt: When he ran against Kennedy for the Senate merrily Apr 2015 #244

Obama calls his own economic policies "mainstream 1980's Republican" and LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #263

Embrace it, is my advice Scootaloo Apr 2015 #167

That's a very good point..And I have always embraced it, Thanks! haikugal Apr 2015 #204

To some people it's anyone to the left of Temujin. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #173

The real far left vive la commune Apr 2015 #178

Dragging the country right. And we know that never ends well. merrily Apr 2015 #222

Most of them have never seen anything left of a moderate. Strat54 Apr 2015 #184

I would rec this, but... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #189

It really does comes down to corporate or populist Dems. (REAL populists, that is.) polichick Apr 2015 #192

....! KoKo Apr 2015 #214

A-freakin'-men! meow2u3 Apr 2015 #195

The center right of the Democratic Party in 1940 would not even recognize Third Way as Democrats. merrily Apr 2015 #198

In the U.S., LWolf Apr 2015 #199

In the US, the far left is Communist or left anarchist, not the left of the Democratic Party. merrily Apr 2015 #212

Yes, and LWolf Apr 2015 #349

A worthy topic for discussion, perhaps, but not relevant to my point. merrily Apr 2015 #351

I assume that your point is LWolf Apr 2015 #353

The left of the Democratic Party is not the "far far left" or some fringe group, as I have merrily Apr 2015 #354

Okay. LWolf Apr 2015 #355

No, you didn't change. The bs changed. merrily Apr 2015 #359

That's the truth. nt LWolf Apr 2015 #370

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #376

Take your false accusations about my alleged deviousness and merrily Apr 2015 #378

What is the modern corporate political structure? treestar Apr 2015 #316

"here?" LWolf Apr 2015 #350

that's very general treestar Apr 2015 #356

Which has LWolf Apr 2015 #369

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #375

Kicked&Recommended! butterfly77 Apr 2015 #201

"The Far Left" is just 3 Words fredamae Apr 2015 #225

Left what?... freebrew Apr 2015 #226

Why do you even care about being called the far left? Renew Deal Apr 2015 #229

There is NO far-left in the US media RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #232

There is, it merely isn't that popular treestar Apr 2015 #311

The reason that their ideas do not catch on is not popularity RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #347

People can't think for themselves? treestar Apr 2015 #357

No they cannot RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #361

well really is no such thing PatrynXX Apr 2015 #240

The far left is the most right. Orsino Apr 2015 #260

This far leftist is not offering the same deal, just say'n. harun Apr 2015 #265

I think it's interesting that so many people consider far left an insult BainsBane Apr 2015 #266

I agree and if a person is a Marxist treestar Apr 2015 #312

It wouldn't BainsBane Apr 2015 #325

Gay? Roy Rolling Apr 2015 #269

The far left never had any power. Just ask Bill Kristol.... americannightmare Apr 2015 #272

Code from the astroturfers to make anyone at FDR liberal or left of Cleita Apr 2015 #277

BBC commentator was rumbling "far left" and "fringe candidate" butt gas when referencing... Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #297

It Irritates Me As Well. colsohlibgal Apr 2015 #298

"I welcome their hatred" RiverLover Apr 2015 #304

Far leftist is like, you know, Ronald Reagan. tclambert Apr 2015 #300

Wasn't "The Far Left" Gary Larson's old comic panel? Ken Burch Apr 2015 #308

The Overton Window is so far right in this country DirkGently Apr 2015 #318

I like that idea. A lot. RiverLover Apr 2015 #343

At least one poster here repeatedly uses "fringe left" to describe City Lights Apr 2015 #320

Really? Bonobo Apr 2015 #335

LOL! City Lights Apr 2015 #352

i consider myself fairly far left. barbtries Apr 2015 #341

typical Nader voter = far left beachbum bob Apr 2015 #342

FDR Liberal???? One of the 99 Apr 2015 #348

Oh yes, that's the part of FDR's legacy we treasure. RiverLover Apr 2015 #367

But FDR is not just the New Deal One of the 99 Apr 2015 #371

When we speak of FDR economic populism/progressivism, that is what we are speaking to. RiverLover Apr 2015 #373

That's only part of FDR's legacy One of the 99 Apr 2015 #374

LOL @ "centrists" Matrosov Apr 2015 #377

Kick for the "Far Left". Zorra Apr 2015 #379