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70. I've seen that brush off to "Social Issues" you're talking about, BB. Thank you so much

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:52 AM

Apr 2015

for your OP.. to clarify just what they are so superciliously sniff their collective nose at.

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A shout out to "social issues" [View all] BainsBane Apr 2015 OP

K freaking R. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

I have gotten the impression around here that only economics matter in this election. leftofcool Apr 2015 #2

Not just economics BainsBane Apr 2015 #6

That keep us in an inferior economic sitation by ignorning our humanity and they dismiss us. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #22

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #162

Shutting down the government and/or defaulting on the debt ala Cruz, is a direct transfer of wage freshwest Apr 2015 #171

Given that the country is on the tipping point of sliding into a modern form of hifiguy Apr 2015 #148

+1. K & R this Post. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #300

Only winning matters. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #245

my real life is smack in the middle of the economic issue. though it is right up there, why i chose seabeyond Apr 2015 #248

I didn't say anything about gender. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #249

jack, you have told us women and gays and blacks are the blame for the loss of the white male in our seabeyond Apr 2015 #251

prove it. Just one link. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #253

after the last election, you went into a spiel. many of us saw it. not gonna hunt it down. seabeyond Apr 2015 #254

I've had my fill of you telling DU what I think. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #255

did you not state that women and gays were the reason white men are not a part of our party? seabeyond Apr 2015 #258

It's your assertion to prove. Google up. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #259

that's how Hillary started her campaign hfojvt Apr 2015 #295

A few links please? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #3

Come on Manny, you've been here long enough to know they have appeared now and then... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #8

Not as I understand the meaning of "derision". nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #10

Derision. AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #13

That's my understanding of the word, as well. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #18

We agree that's good :) AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #21

... MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #23

IMHO. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #31

I missed that thread! zappaman Apr 2015 #61

I so love zappaman! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #63

No, you got yourself hidden in that one. n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #84

I doubt mr. goldman will bestir himself to reply to you. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #180

Bains Op is exceptional. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #187

awwwww...... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #188

Social issues are more likely to be ignored daredtowork Apr 2015 #35

Do not.... sheshe2 Apr 2015 #64

That's why I ignored the comment nt. BainsBane Apr 2015 #77

I know it's hard JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #95

Thanks JAG... sheshe2 Apr 2015 #130

the OP does not seem to know what social issues are hfojvt Apr 2015 #297

Sure. Just site search "gefilte fish"...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #92

Oh yeah....nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #149

no one is gonna bother manny. too many of us know, have seen, participated. it is not about you seabeyond Apr 2015 #118

Exactly BainsBane Apr 2015 #141

I don't see derision. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #267

kick Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #4

and just about all of them are connected to our economic situation JI7 Apr 2015 #5

...! KoKo Apr 2015 #100

yep. Phlem Apr 2015 #163

Thank You Mnpaul Apr 2015 #184

Please explain. Sheepshank Apr 2015 #235

Easy to explain Mnpaul Apr 2015 #247

better throw in health care issue if you are discussing cost of bc. $37-$162 a month. seabeyond Apr 2015 #250

If minimum wage went up at the same rate as exec. pay Mnpaul Apr 2015 #257

no. something so rudimentary to womens health should only be thru our health insurance. seabeyond Apr 2015 #273

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #278

i am PAYING for the fuckin HEALTH insurance. really dude? seabeyond Apr 2015 #279

others paying for my birth control? what part of that is not RW? seabeyond Apr 2015 #280

I want, I want, I want Mnpaul Apr 2015 #282

you have made your position clear. seabeyond Apr 2015 #283

and you want to continue to avoid the questions Mnpaul Apr 2015 #285

my position is mercuryblues Apr 2015 #286

So your prescription coverage covers all other drugs Mnpaul Apr 2015 #288

I have never mercuryblues Apr 2015 #290

Prescription cost reform was taken off the table by the 1% Mnpaul Apr 2015 #291

the problem mercuryblues Apr 2015 #293

What you decry is part of ACA BainsBane Apr 2015 #287

You got it Mnpaul Apr 2015 #289

You're all over the map BainsBane Apr 2015 #303

Your pretense is absolute. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #304

Just voted on a jury and I beloieve you will be done in this thread quite shortly. trumad Apr 2015 #296

You are more clearly explaining that there is a symbiotic Social vs Economic hand shake Sheepshank Apr 2015 #261

The lack of one does lead to need for the other Mnpaul Apr 2015 #262

you were attempting to minimize the social aspect of this and that is a fallacy n/t Sheepshank Apr 2015 #264

Don't tell what I was trying to do Mnpaul Apr 2015 #265

That sounds like free market er ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #305

Nope, not even close. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #268

I said "many of these issues" Mnpaul Apr 2015 #269

But that's just it. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #281

But if you don't deal with the economic issues Mnpaul Apr 2015 #284

33% is not most. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #292

I'm guessing that you don't work in manufacturing Mnpaul Apr 2015 #294

That was a learning experience. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #298

K&R for being absolutely right... giftedgirl77 Apr 2015 #7

+1 lovemydog Apr 2015 #57

Yes, Yes, Yes KMOD Apr 2015 #9

I have not seen anyone against these things PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #11

They have said they don't matter BainsBane Apr 2015 #30

"some have said" G_j Apr 2015 #56

these people use that tactic. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #66

So now I'm Fox? BainsBane Apr 2015 #74

The reactions in this thread BainsBane Apr 2015 #73

Seen it here hundreds of times- in GD and in the hosts forum unfortunately- bettyellen Apr 2015 #115

we have linked to them. you arent paying attention, but enough of us have seen it. we will not seabeyond Apr 2015 #119

I read the front page of GD a couple times a day PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #175

i realy do not give a rats ass what you call. enough people have read it, heard it and call it bs. seabeyond Apr 2015 #181

My choice G_j Apr 2015 #241

cool. i am not wasting the time linking. you are not wasting the time hunting it down. i get that. seabeyond Apr 2015 #243

absolutely...its those very same "someones" Sheepshank Apr 2015 #233

i watched it be denied in a very thread it was happening, and being pointed out and argued. seabeyond Apr 2015 #238

I haven't either. A well balanced agenda is critical. Social issues and economic issues are Zorra Apr 2015 #42

YES! Bernie covers all the bases. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #67

Okay, let's play this out BainsBane Apr 2015 #78

I don't think the poster said ANYTHING about excluding the rest of government tkmorris Apr 2015 #106

No, he didn't say excluding the rest of government BainsBane Apr 2015 #121

Huge K&R R B Garr Apr 2015 #12

Yes! betsuni Apr 2015 #14

Indeed! KMOD Apr 2015 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Apr 2015 #15

Can't 'be quiet while people whose basic civil rights aren't threatened by a GOP administration...' freshwest Apr 2015 #16

May be I am wrong, but sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #17

Bing! nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #20

abortion rights have come under restrictions, in indiana a woman was charged and convicted JI7 Apr 2015 #26

That is terrible, and I hope that she can repeal this to FC. sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #38

Your wrong... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #36

If it "doesn't cost much to support reproductive rights" BainsBane Apr 2015 #44

Sorry, I don't mean to offend you. sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #53

In that example you give BainsBane Apr 2015 #76

Thank you. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #270

Why are they under attack? To give you something to fight over and to fight for that doesn't stillwaiting Apr 2015 #94

why are womens issues under attack? cause men have controlled women from beginning of time. seabeyond Apr 2015 #122

Bingo. Candidates who are right-wing economically use social issues as a cloak LittleBlue Apr 2015 #60

It costs nothing? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #116

Your definition of cost needs more serious thought. Supporting these rights cost many lives. freshwest Apr 2015 #80

Well said, fresh.. thank you for that thoughful response! Cha Apr 2015 #82

TY. Just focused on priorities, is all. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #83

Exactly.. for the health of our fellow human beings. Like Bains in the OP.. Global Climate Change! Cha Apr 2015 #86

Over 600,000 Americans have died of HIV/AIDS. The first 30,000 without so much as a word of concern Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #98

+1. .... and i remember. to dismiss. so callously. how offensive is this. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #125

+2 nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #204

gosh, i cannot believe this shit on a democratic board. that we have to live this shit, within our seabeyond Apr 2015 #124

Brava, freshwest! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #133

Beautifully stated BainsBane Apr 2015 #135

What a bunch of privileged hooey. Discrimination against LGBT and women have cost both groups Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #97

Nailed it...again...repeatedly thought this thread. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #142

Great post Depaysement Apr 2015 #177

Holy Shit! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #19

Bing... N/t obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2015 #28

I love her ability to put into words what I feel. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #29

What you said! n/t betsuni Apr 2015 #32

You forgot I think single payer health insurance sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #24

Unfortunately, polling data doesn't support your assertion BainsBane Apr 2015 #34

The problem is that sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #39

It's called capitalism BainsBane Apr 2015 #45

Thanks for the tip, but sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #49

I admire your tactful reply to snark. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #50

Good for you BainsBane Apr 2015 #72

Supply side isn't Capitalism. AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #144

Oh my gosh BainsBane Apr 2015 #146

No, the polling data says the 99% don't *think* single payer is important to them.. Fumesucker Apr 2015 #40

,You are quite correct,and I apologize, sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #46

It sucks. I agree BainsBane Apr 2015 #47

Depends on which poll and how questions are asked. There are plenty of polls out there ND-Dem Apr 2015 #51

Right at the beginning of the ACA negotiations, polls showed 77% in favor of single payer. Maedhros Apr 2015 #277

Zat so? ND-Dem Apr 2015 #48

The poster said 99 percent BainsBane Apr 2015 #75

You know when I first started attending demonstrations against health insurers and governments Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #99

A right and rightous post, BB. brer cat Apr 2015 #25

Indeed. n.t Iris Apr 2015 #185

Yes if only the non-governing elite would get out of politics and let the governing elite Rex Apr 2015 #27

Don't ya know? It's all about the money! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #33

That is how I see it BainsBane Apr 2015 #37

The number of Bircher media references show that, Bain. TY for the awesome OP. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #151

Hey, the chickens being danced on by the elephants should quit sqauwking so loud. It's aggravating! freshwest Apr 2015 #170

A-freaking-men, sister. That is a righteous rant. Hekate Apr 2015 #41

And how are our social interests served by running a candidate with deep corporate debt appointed, whereisjustice Apr 2015 #52

There is a primary BainsBane Apr 2015 #54

+ 1,000 Iliyah Apr 2015 #55

My State's Primary election is over a year in the future. It's insulting to the people to claim an Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #101

Nope. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #271

As you point out very well, BB lovemydog Apr 2015 #58

Don't you mean "minor issues"? zappaman Apr 2015 #59

If someone supports Reaganomics, they are conservative. Period LittleBlue Apr 2015 #62

True, but Warren isn't running BainsBane Apr 2015 #69

Obama: More Moderate Republican Than Socialist AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #137

I agree BainsBane Apr 2015 #138

we aren't AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #143

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2015 #65

I don't think economic issues and so-called "social issues" are really separate Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #68

They really are separate. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #272

I've seen that brush off to "Social Issues" you're talking about, BB. Thank you so much Cha Apr 2015 #70

dishonest list cali Apr 2015 #71

Oh dayum....great post!! Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #79

Rec JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #81

That's a hell of a lot of list padding eridani Apr 2015 #85

Yeah, that was the point BainsBane Apr 2015 #88

Still, I expect more of Democrats than that they should be Republicans who are good on social issues eridani Apr 2015 #91

The largest reform to Social Security ever won by a people's movement is the extension of spousal Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #105

These issues are not separate. 99Forever Apr 2015 #87

The point of the OP is that they are not separate BainsBane Apr 2015 #89

Grinding poverty is... 99Forever Apr 2015 #90

Equalizer except that in this case equal means 'minorities have twice as much poverty as whites' Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #107

The Democrats are far better at helping the poor than the GOP BainsBane Apr 2015 #131

shot in the back. shot in the back. how many times do we see this, while being told, doesnt matter seabeyond Apr 2015 #132

More accurately... 99Forever Apr 2015 #145

Indeed it does BainsBane Apr 2015 #150

Of course poverty sucks for anyone who is poor, but your contention was that poverty equalizes Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #156

This is the kind of BainsBane Apr 2015 #167

K&R Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #93

I agree. Those who do this rest on a fabricated set of laurels boston bean Apr 2015 #96

This. Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #104

Exactly. betsuni Apr 2015 #110

That really is about the extent of it BainsBane Apr 2015 #139

Thank you! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #168

A big K&R! William769 Apr 2015 #102

DUrec...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #103

Listing something means New Democrats have done well at it? I wish. merrily Apr 2015 #108

Hard to imagine anyone whining about your OP, BB.. It's excellent. Cha Apr 2015 #109

Thanks, Cha BainsBane Apr 2015 #127

K & R!! thucythucy Apr 2015 #111

I see economic issues blithely dismissed here IN FAVOR OF social issues. As if we should not djean111 Apr 2015 #112

If you read my OP BainsBane Apr 2015 #120

Excellent OP ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #113

Kick Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #114

yes. this. thank baines. yes, democrats that dismiss ALL of this. so much the part of our seabeyond Apr 2015 #117

they call it populist reform BainsBane Apr 2015 #147

Hillary has a good record on many Social issues. I have never seen anyone say that derisively. Autumn Apr 2015 #123

K & R. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #126

I think that one of the most damaging myths in politics is in fact the separability of 'economic' LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #128

Very well said BainsBane Apr 2015 #129

Kick! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #134

this thread took a while for me to get thru. getting thru elevated my ... anger. seabeyond Apr 2015 #136

The ostrich syndrome. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #140

Economic Justice is a social issue. Maedhros Apr 2015 #152

and social justice is an economic issue BainsBane Apr 2015 #165

Yet when Democrats openly participate in direct attacks on the Constitution - Maedhros Apr 2015 #169

No, I don't think you should accept any of that BainsBane Apr 2015 #223

I don't think that's a relevant comparison. Maedhros Apr 2015 #231

I think some of the Wikileaks information has been very important BainsBane Apr 2015 #236

I, for one, would not argue that Wikileaks should exempt Assange from prosecution. Maedhros Apr 2015 #237

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #153

cheering rubio in another post on a democratic site. maybe free republic is more your site. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #157

They don't like gay people over at Free Republic cyberswede Apr 2015 #159

Very well written, as usual. Especially when you wrote: guillaumeb Apr 2015 #154

True BainsBane Apr 2015 #155

Only the concerns of the rich are considered. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #158

By mirroring priorities BainsBane Apr 2015 #160

I understood your meaning but wished to add my point. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #161

Democrats aren't very good on social issues... MellowDem Apr 2015 #164

My point is that the distinction between social and economic is false BainsBane Apr 2015 #166

Yes us poor democrats need to shut up workinclasszero Apr 2015 #172

as this very op points out DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #173

pull funds from the Democratic Party? BainsBane Apr 2015 #174

Senate Democrats PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #176

No when several firms threatened not to donate to Dems, DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #183

ABSOLUTELY! LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #207

(NSFW) the OP may fuss about being called (or candidates being called) corpo sellouts while being MisterP Apr 2015 #178

spot on - as someone pointed out to me recently, social justice and economic justice are linked, you whereisjustice Apr 2015 #186

Which is the fucking point of the OP BainsBane Apr 2015 #195

You missed the point completely BainsBane Apr 2015 #189

Amen to that. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #196

I attribute some of that to the power of national mythology BainsBane Apr 2015 #200

And the middle classes are the most insecure and sensitive about themselves. betsuni Apr 2015 #201

Of course the thing about the US is BainsBane Apr 2015 #202

the middle class is also vulnerable to falling guillaumeb Apr 2015 #208

17 yr old son being taught economics from a old white rw. for the first time, seabeyond Apr 2015 #216

I have an uncontrollable urge to count the number of times "corporatist" and "oligarch" betsuni Apr 2015 #198

Me too, in regard to Marx BainsBane Apr 2015 #199

The people living on Planet Me call themselves Libertarians. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #209

+1 Marr Apr 2015 #192

k and r + a gazillion niyad Apr 2015 #179

pre-K education too :-) progree Apr 2015 #182

Yes! BainsBane Apr 2015 #190

I see you are familiar with the below thread :D progree Apr 2015 #197

Uh, it was centrists who urged gays to shut-up about marriage equality, because it Marr Apr 2015 #191

Another one who completely missed the point BainsBane Apr 2015 #193

No, I understand you're hiding behind poor people. It's hardly a new trick. Marr Apr 2015 #194

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about BainsBane Apr 2015 #203

+1000 nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #205

Hit a nerve? Marr Apr 2015 #210

What hits a nerve for me is seeing the things I struggle for justiceischeap Apr 2015 #211

Sorry if you suddenly have a problem with the term 'social issue', but... Marr Apr 2015 #212

Who established the definition of 'social issue' and when did it come into being? justiceischeap Apr 2015 #213

This is pathetic. Like when the same crowd tried to pretend that "Third Way" was a conspiracy term. Marr Apr 2015 #214

Again, when was this phrase coined and by whom? justiceischeap Apr 2015 #215

Silly semantic games, to blur the definition of 'left'. Marr Apr 2015 #225

An ecomonic issue is an issue about your money or your job. A social issue is an issue about my Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #218

exactly BainsBane Apr 2015 #220

No, that is not what I'm saying. Marr Apr 2015 #224

And you're missing the fact that somewhere along the line, someone decided justiceischeap Apr 2015 #229

Don't even go there. Marr Apr 2015 #230

I agree. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #275

He isn't using a standard definition BainsBane Apr 2015 #222

No, you're using social wedge issues to sell a Wall Street hack as a liberal. Marr Apr 2015 #226

social wedge issues.... there you go again, lol. as justice just pointed this out to you. seabeyond Apr 2015 #239

"My Wall Street issue"? Marr Apr 2015 #242

your wallstreet issue trumps. i am also not only on your side, but that is a huge issue for me also seabeyond Apr 2015 #244

You're the one who's willing to drop one, not me. Marr Apr 2015 #246

show me where i am not all for a vigorous primary, or that i am even a clinton supporter. seabeyond Apr 2015 #252

The OP is not defending any politician BainsBane Apr 2015 #219

Oh, give me a break. There's a reason this thread is filled with cheering Hillary fans. Marr Apr 2015 #227

many of us are not clinton supporters, though calling the cheering fans allows you to dismiss ALL seabeyond Apr 2015 #240

No posters (okay, not many) have ever said that Clinton is the answer to all that ails us. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #309

Well said BainsBane Apr 2015 #217

Not even close. BainsBane Apr 2015 #221

"Tired obsession with the DLC and your idiotic political labels'. Marr Apr 2015 #228

WOW. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #274

A perfect example of why I still vote Democrat. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #206

I've never and will never understand the attempt to marginalize social issues. Sheepshank Apr 2015 #232

Particularly since it's an exclusionary view BainsBane Apr 2015 #234

If I am a white, straight, protestant male, and I am not particularly worried about anyone but NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #256

Or create false dichotomies between "economic issues" and "social issues" while placing the latter nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #260

yes. lol, simple enough. not going ot back of the bus. i will stand right up front seabeyond Apr 2015 #263

Economic populism and social justice go hand in hand. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #306

Social issues are important - very important - as they are at their core human rights issues. hifiguy Apr 2015 #302

I just said it was a false dichotomy. Like I said to sea, economic populism and social justice are nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #307

I'm glad to see this. qwlauren35 Apr 2015 #266

Great post--I'm a fan of "social programs." I think the government can do a lot of good in that MADem Apr 2015 #276

And we all know which party is more likely to drastically cut the very services people depend on. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #308

. trumad Apr 2015 #299

Well done BainsBane Apr 2015 #301