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stevenleser

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9. How about we all split this down the middle. I think its good that Sarkeesian raised awareness

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:54 PM

Apr 2015

regarding sexism in video games. I also find any charges from any quarter that video games cause violence or sexism to be at the very least unproven.

It is a service to know, however, how much violence or sexism exists in video games. Once so informed, people can make decisions about what kind of entertainment they consume and what entertainment they provide to their kids.

I haven't really gamed at all in 10-15 years or so, but if I did, I would be on the lookout for games that are gratuitously violent or engage in sexist tropes and limit my consumption of them.

On Edit: I also find it very interesting how much, and I am being generous in using the term, "pushback" Sarkeesian has received for raising awareness. I find the response to her troubling.

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Long term study: No link found between video games and real-world sexism [View all] davidn3600 Apr 2015 OP

Wait, so this study is saying Sarkeesian et al TM99 Apr 2015 #1

She is really just another Jack Thompson NobodyHere Apr 2015 #13

Some Video Games reflect hateful sexism el_bryanto Apr 2015 #22

I and my partner both like video games TM99 Apr 2015 #42

So in contrast to "some video games reflect hateful sexism" el_bryanto Apr 2015 #44

Video games no more reflect hateful sexism TM99 Apr 2015 #53

And like all of those things, literature, film and music, it is open to criticism el_bryanto Apr 2015 #55

Several of the foundation theories, TM99 Apr 2015 #57

I'm sorry, but the very existence of Team Ninja as a studio disproves that "no misogyny" nonsense. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #61

Do you even play games or know the history of these franchises? TM99 Apr 2015 #62

Team Ninja did one Metroid game. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #67

Yeah, ok. TM99 Apr 2015 #71

Well, she is a really fucking smart grifter LOL...find a fringe movement of really angry people snooper2 Apr 2015 #48

Yeah, few here seem to actually know the facts of who she is TM99 Apr 2015 #54

Except for the very extreme nuts who also believe video games cause violence NuclearDem Apr 2015 #2

Which is basically saying the same thing Major Nikon Apr 2015 #3

No, it's not. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #4

So you think Sarkeesian's point is to tell developers how to sell more video games Major Nikon Apr 2015 #5

No, that's not what I said. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #29

Well this is what she said, which doesn't seem as ambiguous as you might think Major Nikon Apr 2015 #35

The study is limited ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #40

Not as limited as anything that contradicts it Major Nikon Apr 2015 #45

Sarkeesian believes the games cause the sexism davidn3600 Apr 2015 #6

There's more Major Nikon Apr 2015 #7

Good Lord but that woman is tedious... Oktober Apr 2015 #12

Think you're conflating two different things. DirkGently Apr 2015 #28

There is very disturbing trends with SIM games ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #33

I don't think 'cause' is either part or parcel of sanitizing or cultural expression. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #52

If the game doesn't create or perpetuate sexism in real life, then what's the problem? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #59

It's lazy and sloppy writing. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #60

Ask again when we live in a post sexist society ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #31

I think it's better to ask what really determines cause and effect Major Nikon Apr 2015 #34

Huh. ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #38

Here's a link davidn3600 Apr 2015 #36

Awesome--thank you ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #37

thank you. that was the obvious. i didnt want to jump in. thank you for clarifying. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #8

I didn't think that was the question either. DirkGently Apr 2015 #26

It's obnoxious. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #30

How about we all split this down the middle. I think its good that Sarkeesian raised awareness stevenleser Apr 2015 #9

I agree with this assessment renegade000 Apr 2015 #11

Just curious, do you think FOX News influences the American public? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #15

Interesting attempt at a non-sequitur. People ostensibly watch News to BE influenced by facts. stevenleser Apr 2015 #17

Media influences perceptions. That is a directly observable fact. And people watch news KittyWampus Apr 2015 #46

The link is not a peer reviewed study on what we are discussing and so it isn't empirical data. stevenleser Apr 2015 #49

The author of the study specifically stated that one of the limitations when interpreting findings seaglass Apr 2015 #10

Nobody is staying that sexism is good Major Nikon Apr 2015 #16

Of course they fucking do. alarimer Apr 2015 #21

The empirical data says otherwise Major Nikon Apr 2015 #23

You are getting into other things like stereotypes in writing davidn3600 Apr 2015 #27

have you actually played any games lately? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #43

I was playing Lego again with my 5 year old daughter last night snooper2 Apr 2015 #50

Fuck the Oscars, that's all I can say. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #63

I love the Lego games. tammywammy Apr 2015 #68

What video games have you actually played that reinforce sexism? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #18

Legend of Zelda, the only ones I play. n/t seaglass Apr 2015 #24

I've never played Legend of Zelda, so I have no idea if there is sexism in it or not. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #25

No link between Rush Limbaugh & FOX New and teabag nuttery. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #14

People tune into video games expecting fantasy and getting what they expect. Major Nikon Apr 2015 #19

People tune into various media for various reasons. Some conscious others not consciously recognized KittyWampus Apr 2015 #47

And yet we are still responsible for our own actions Major Nikon Apr 2015 #56

Okay, so .... Serious question? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #64

No but the games often are alarimer Apr 2015 #20

If there were racism in video games, BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #32

It wouldn't, and anyone who claimed otherwise would be run off DU kcr Apr 2015 #39

Wrong! TM99 Apr 2015 #41

There isn't racism in video games? gollygee Apr 2015 #51

Like a great many topics, these subjects are chosen again and again... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #58

That's obvious. Only obsessed nanny state types blame violence and sexism on games. LittleBlue Apr 2015 #65

Well, let's wait until Jenny McCarthy weighs in on this with her real science WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #66

Long term study: No link found between slavery and real-world racism. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #69

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