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pampango

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12. Conservatives are misguided in this poll, not the poll itself. It is an accurate view of the muddled
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:55 PM
Apr 2015

brains of conservatives and the more perceptive view of liberals. That's really all you can ask of a poll.

If the public is so stupid
can we believe any poll results?

The public is not 'stupid', though many people are (particularly on the conservative side of the spectrum). That would be a very un-democratic view. The whole democratic idea of self-government is at odds with a belief that people are too stupid to govern themselves and need 'enlightened' leaders who are selected in some manner that does not involve the public.

A poll can reflect the opinions and preferences of stupid people as accurately as it does those of intelligent people.


IS every Hillary poll equally suspect?
Or only the right-wing ones?

I doubt that every Hillary poll is suspect, though some of them may be. It depends on who is doing the polling and how it is done. The question "If the election was today would you vote for Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush?" is pretty straightforward and as subjective as some poll questions can be. Of course, how they select the people who are being polled is key. And, of course, any poll done today only applies to today's attitudes, not tomorrow's or next year's.

When you say 'right-wing polls, do you mean like those conducted by FOX? If so, unless they present the methodology of the poll and it is sound (highly unlikely), they yes I would generally put more credence in polls done by reputable organizations like Pew than I would in right-wing polls.

Sometimes I don't like the results of well-done polls, but I try to resist the urge to ignore them. Conservatives can ignore polls, evidence and science that they don't agree with and go on believing that they are right and the whole world agrees with them. Not me.

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Cognitive dissonance? Only way to explain the disconnect. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #1
That's because the GOPukers and their brain dead followers believe whatever Foxnews tells them. Rex Apr 2015 #2
Paul Simon said it best in 'The Boxer': "All lies and jests still a man hears what he wants to hear. . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #3
Right-wingers are still butt-hurt over "Brown vs. Board of Education"! bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #4
Truth. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #13
This shows what the Right really wants from the courts. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #5
I have a neighbor who thinks the democratic party is further left than justiceischeap Apr 2015 #6
Are the Hillary polls misguided as well? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #7
Conservatives are misguided in this poll, not the poll itself. It is an accurate view of the muddled pampango Apr 2015 #12
Why do you assume Democratic respondents are less muddled? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #20
They view the Supreme Court as conservative. Do you not think that is less "muddled" than pampango Apr 2015 #27
The point is opinion is subjective, and relative. Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #32
oh shit JI7 Apr 2015 #19
A majority of Supreme Court decisions are 9-0. former9thward Apr 2015 #8
Is it wrong to "compartmentalize the justices into one group or another"? pampango Apr 2015 #9
i am a lawyer and you are largely correct. hifiguy Apr 2015 #14
If you are a lawyer you would know cases wind up at the SC for a reason. former9thward Apr 2015 #21
I AM a lawyer and have clerked for two trial court judges. hifiguy Apr 2015 #24
All I am saying is the conventional 5-4 vote former9thward Apr 2015 #23
Maybe SCOTUS will decide the marriage equality case before it like they decided Brown DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #11
I think they will. former9thward Apr 2015 #22
7-2? You think Alito's gonna do the right thing? KamaAina Apr 2015 #30
Heaven help us if they get elected and can ever make it "conservative". jwirr Apr 2015 #10
The levels of stupidity and misinformation in this country hifiguy Apr 2015 #15
they'd say muslim terrorists spy on them from the moon if you asked, too. NuttyFluffers Apr 2015 #16
Unfortunately, these conservative voters ("lunatics") have elected a congress pampango Apr 2015 #17
Conservatives also think the media are liberal. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #18
People like that are going to think SCOTUS is "liberal" until every justice is a GOP appointee. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #25
SCOTUS upheld the ACA therefore it is liberal to them. LonePirate Apr 2015 #26
So YOU get to determine the true nature of the court and anyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong DesMoinesDem Apr 2015 #28
The symmetry is pleasing. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #29
conservatives are stupid. that's what makes them conservative. samsingh Apr 2015 #31
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