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pampango

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27. They view the Supreme Court as conservative. Do you not think that is less "muddled" than
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015

thinking the Court is liberal.

How do you know the intelligence
or muddledness of those
who respond to telephone polls?

You are the one who said: "... the public is so stupid", not me.

I have as much right to an opinion of conservatives' "muddled thinking" as they have to their opinion in the first place. Do you not think that conservatives are often guilty of 'muddled thinking'?


Your opinion seems condescending?
As though some people's perceptions
are more valid or accurate than others?

Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion. Do you judge the opinions of conservatives as equally well-thought-out as those of liberals?

If you believe that thinking that the Court is liberal is not 'muddled' you are entitled to your opinion.


I mean polls reflecting
right-wing views, such as the OP.

How does this poll reflect right-wing views? By pointing out that conservatives incorrectly (unless you agree with them) believe that the Court is liberal?

Were those people wrong?
Was that poll misleading or inaccurate?
If the poll said 72% approve of war with Iraq
surely it was the right thing to do, right?

Of course not. A poll just shows what people think. It does not make them right or wrong. Of course, in a poll that shows the partisan differences in opinions we are free to compare and contrast the opinions of liberals and conservatives.

Is it possible that conservatives are 'right' that the Court is liberal? Since that is a matter of judgment rather than 'right' or 'wrong', I will leave that up to you. For me it would be much easier to make the case that the Court has been quite conservative in its rulings rather than liberal, but to some conservatives I suppose the Court has not been conservative enough - which, in their 'muddled' minds, must mean it is liberal.

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Cognitive dissonance? Only way to explain the disconnect. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #1
That's because the GOPukers and their brain dead followers believe whatever Foxnews tells them. Rex Apr 2015 #2
Paul Simon said it best in 'The Boxer': "All lies and jests still a man hears what he wants to hear. . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #3
Right-wingers are still butt-hurt over "Brown vs. Board of Education"! bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #4
Truth. nt hifiguy Apr 2015 #13
This shows what the Right really wants from the courts. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #5
I have a neighbor who thinks the democratic party is further left than justiceischeap Apr 2015 #6
Are the Hillary polls misguided as well? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #7
Conservatives are misguided in this poll, not the poll itself. It is an accurate view of the muddled pampango Apr 2015 #12
Why do you assume Democratic respondents are less muddled? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #20
They view the Supreme Court as conservative. Do you not think that is less "muddled" than pampango Apr 2015 #27
The point is opinion is subjective, and relative. Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #32
oh shit JI7 Apr 2015 #19
A majority of Supreme Court decisions are 9-0. former9thward Apr 2015 #8
Is it wrong to "compartmentalize the justices into one group or another"? pampango Apr 2015 #9
i am a lawyer and you are largely correct. hifiguy Apr 2015 #14
If you are a lawyer you would know cases wind up at the SC for a reason. former9thward Apr 2015 #21
I AM a lawyer and have clerked for two trial court judges. hifiguy Apr 2015 #24
All I am saying is the conventional 5-4 vote former9thward Apr 2015 #23
Maybe SCOTUS will decide the marriage equality case before it like they decided Brown DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #11
I think they will. former9thward Apr 2015 #22
7-2? You think Alito's gonna do the right thing? KamaAina Apr 2015 #30
Heaven help us if they get elected and can ever make it "conservative". jwirr Apr 2015 #10
The levels of stupidity and misinformation in this country hifiguy Apr 2015 #15
they'd say muslim terrorists spy on them from the moon if you asked, too. NuttyFluffers Apr 2015 #16
Unfortunately, these conservative voters ("lunatics") have elected a congress pampango Apr 2015 #17
Conservatives also think the media are liberal. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #18
People like that are going to think SCOTUS is "liberal" until every justice is a GOP appointee. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #25
SCOTUS upheld the ACA therefore it is liberal to them. LonePirate Apr 2015 #26
So YOU get to determine the true nature of the court and anyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong DesMoinesDem Apr 2015 #28
The symmetry is pleasing. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #29
conservatives are stupid. that's what makes them conservative. samsingh Apr 2015 #31
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