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In reply to the discussion: Democrats' hunt for the white working-class male voter [View all]betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)73. So called anti-trade views aren't the republican base.
tpp has no democratic sponsers.
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as long as whit emen continue to define their masculinity thru their vote, there will be an issue
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#1
But white males do NOT see a vote for the GOP as against their self-interest.
guillaumeb
Apr 2015
#5
The GOP knew they had to break the unions and they did it with a lot of racism and
CTyankee
Apr 2015
#138
So many don't think of themselves as ever having been privileged by their gender or race
YoungDemCA
Apr 2015
#6
while I'm generally not much of a believer in gender politics, this is most of the problem
whatthehey
Apr 2015
#78
" There are no reasons to believe that white men were always knuckle dragging morons."
DonCoquixote
Apr 2015
#107
Guys don't advocate for themselves, they suffer individually, and project that hurt in other ways.
DonCoquixote
Apr 2015
#133
I spend approx 15 hrs a week in bars, w/ a 158 IQ, multiple degrees and a few academic publications
whatthehey
Apr 2015
#137
... and this provides you insight into the attitudes of working class white men?
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#146
Ah yes, the ole' "I will make all of our lives miserable, if it means making your life miserable"
YoungDemCA
Apr 2015
#10
Yep, they don't know they hate Warren yet- only because she hasn't been targeted by Rush and company
bettyellen
Apr 2015
#87
They sure don't want Hillary Clinton, who has no intention of making their lives better.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#84
The values that Warren holds resonate strongly with working class men.
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#128
You do know that probably tens of millions of white guys voted for Obama?
Comrade Grumpy
Apr 2015
#121
Anyone who votes Republican, watches fox news, and listens to Rush Limbaugh...
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2015
#120
Straight white males are voting repulican? Yes, and so are their wives.
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#122
The white electorate is shrinking as a percentage of the vote...and it's shrinking fast.
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2015
#125
When that happens, then who will you kick out of our club in the name of purity? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#147
"The biggest driver of white working-class disaffection, however, is clearly economic insecurity"
HereSince1628
Apr 2015
#16
"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or
pampango
Apr 2015
#72
Of course they are. The majority of the republican base opposes TPP. And it's not just the TPP
pampango
Apr 2015
#75
we aren't talking about the republican base we are talking about working class whites.
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#83
So "while a slight majority of the democratic base do indicate support" for the TPP,
pampango
Apr 2015
#90
Except when they oppose the TPP which is supported by the "economic reactionary" Obama (and Hillary)
pampango
Apr 2015
#97
Since Obama is winning with most of GOP backing him and the Democrats opposed
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#98
The first poll was taken along time ago before most would have heard of TPP
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#101
No. The first was done 5 months ago. Your knowledge of who had heard of TPP and
pampango
Apr 2015
#103
I cited the union hard hat violence against anti-war protesters the other day
Fumesucker
Apr 2015
#44
Oh shit, you're right. Will delete there and re-post in response to the other poster.
Ken Burch
Apr 2015
#52
And HRC used a very Nixon-like strategy to win white working-class voters in the late '08 primaries.
Ken Burch
Apr 2015
#53
Her appeal wasn't to the working class though it was to mild racists. n/t
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#74
You get white working class voters by talking about class and to fight corporate power.
Ken Burch
Apr 2015
#45
Well said, sadoldgirl. Their motivation is fear: fear of change, fear of the "other"
pampango
Apr 2015
#77
The republicans are motivated by that. Working class white is not the same thing n/t
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#85
Agreed. Although republicans use fear of 'others' to attract the votes of working class whites.
pampango
Apr 2015
#91
You push radical, rightwing "free trade" here day and night. To you, the "others" are American workers
Romulox
Apr 2015
#113
Nice to see you around, Romulox. I see your preference for discussing policies not posters
pampango
Apr 2015
#116
How about just concentrating on the working class period? Democrats have abandoned all
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2015
#89
The party of NAFTA, TPP, Bank bailouts wonders WHYOWHY won't the poor vote for us???
Romulox
Apr 2015
#112
Opposing free trade agreement would bring some white working class males back in.
hollowdweller
Apr 2015
#114
Is your entire political world view predicated on a sexual/racial stereotype?
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#154
Sounds to me like the white working class abandoned the Democratic Party, not the other way around
philosslayer
Apr 2015
#124
The "white working class" knows it is hated by many in the Party. It acts accordingly. nt
Eleanors38
Apr 2015
#129
That is evolving rapidly, thanks to Occupy Wall St. that got the ball rolling on
CTyankee
Apr 2015
#135
I hope you're right. The "old" labor movement grew out of dissatisfaction with what passed
Eleanors38
Apr 2015
#145
Remember that this demographic was hit the hardest in the recent economic recession
davidn3600
Apr 2015
#139