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jeff47

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43. Flip that around too.

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:03 AM

Apr 2015

People who don't like Clinton have been called stupid, purists, haters, Republican shills, and many other things by Clinton's supporters. In an apparent attempt to get them to like Clinton.

Clinton has a long past. It's a mixed bag. People tend to hear only one side of that mix. In order to "woo" the other side, you're going to have to address the other "side" of her history.

If someone hates the TPP, or the constant drag to the right of the DLC-style leadership, you're going to have to address those arguments. If someone is backing Clinton because of her current polling, you're going to have to address how inaccurate polling this early is.

Instead, we get a lot of name calling. Either by people who do not want to deal with the objections of "the other side", or people who have become exasperated by others not addressing their arguments.

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Why do HRC opponents think that baiting pro-HRC Dems will HELP their non existent candidate? [View all] boston bean Apr 2015 OP

Waiting for a candidate to materialize doesn't work either treestar Apr 2015 #1

mmmm hmmm boston bean Apr 2015 #2

It's a sort of "Waiting for Progressive Godot." msanthrope Apr 2015 #7

Or waiting for Guffman stevenleser Apr 2015 #12

Yeah, but in the meantime, A Mighty Wind blows from some OPs. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #13

But who will emerge as the Best in Show?...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #16

Whoever can turn it up to 11? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #17

Ok. You win... SidDithers Apr 2015 #19

As you wish.....nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #21

Neither is demanding that everyone be an overenthusiastic cheerleader no matter what just because. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #3

point to these demands you speak of. boston bean Apr 2015 #4

Would you kindly cite those demands? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #8

And of course the response is... stevenleser Apr 2015 #14

Silence is the best response to people whose minds are made up about who is the Annointed One. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #33

You're the one that asserted DUers said something. Link or retract. It's that simple. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #36

It's more civil, too. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #61

Some are sick of business as usual candidates pipoman Apr 2015 #5

Oh, so they are doing us all a favor, and can claim to be so thin skinned boston bean Apr 2015 #6

That's what you're doing in this OP. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #53

But they aren't challenging ideals. Not in the least. You know how I know that? msanthrope Apr 2015 #10

They simply advertise their unhappiness without doing anything about it. randome Apr 2015 #9

I'm not trying to help any candidates. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #11

Objective confusion. Chan790 Apr 2015 #15

Inevitable loss? Polls aren't everything but they show repeatedly that Clinton wins. randome Apr 2015 #18

Polls also showed Carter creaming Reagan and Dewey denying Truman a second term. Chan790 Apr 2015 #23

Whereas Team Hillary Hate's personal intuitions are the gospel truth. nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #50

Why do you think polls consistently give her around 83% MoonRiver Apr 2015 #20

Ignorance and fear. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2015 #38

Wow, deluded some? MoonRiver Apr 2015 #40

No, not at all. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #57

Bwahahaha! MoonRiver Apr 2015 #66

brand recognition? frylock Apr 2015 #56

at least you are honest in your goals OKNancy Apr 2015 #29

I suggest we offer a open hand and not a closed one to Chan DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #35

I'm not ever demoralized. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #32

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #39

I requested a fellow member... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #41

Name the "real" Democrat who will beat the worst Republican option frazzled Apr 2015 #42

Lol. The Judean People's Front has spoken nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #49

No no no! We're The People's Front of Judea! Chan790 Apr 2015 #55

I like all the talk of "fake populism" and playing progressives for "fools"... SidDithers Apr 2015 #22

I just read an article with much DU support that even if Hillary comes out against TPP boston bean Apr 2015 #24

When did I get what I want? Chan790 Apr 2015 #26

May the wait continue! nt boston bean Apr 2015 #27

And how'd that work out for ya? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #62

As I said, still waiting. Chan790 Apr 2015 #65

Let me illustrate it for you: LordGlenconner Apr 2015 #67

I dunno. I'll vote for the Dem nominee, whoever (s)he is and I will NOT Triana Apr 2015 #25

Maybe because non-existent candidates are favorable compared to Hillary? Trajan Apr 2015 #28

Who's baiting? SheilaT Apr 2015 #30

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #37

Really? leftynyc Apr 2015 #52

Perhaps to see what HRC supporters are made of. GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #31

Most of this baiting sounds PRO GOP vs Anti Hillary, the conservative smell about it is sKrong uponit7771 Apr 2015 #34

Flip that around too. jeff47 Apr 2015 #43

Hillary is running. What are they doing to get someone whose not such a mixed bag elected? boston bean Apr 2015 #44

It's FUCKING APRIL. jeff47 Apr 2015 #45

It is short sighted, sorry to that you took my words so personally. boston bean Apr 2015 #46

And doubling-down on calling someone an idiot really works!! jeff47 Apr 2015 #58

Chill, man! boston bean Apr 2015 #59

And now we move on to deflection. jeff47 Apr 2015 #63

I haven't said one thing about YOU! boston bean Apr 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Apr 2015 #47

I ask you to reconsider that strategy. nt boston bean Apr 2015 #48

Well when i become a host again and sign up for mirt I will likely have to remove them. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #51

You arer right. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #54

Same reason you use "non existent candidate" snark. n/t ieoeja Apr 2015 #60