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MADem

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119. I still think they should do it. Or at least try.

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:10 PM

Apr 2015

They could double the size of the box, to give the whale more wiggle room. They could heavily pad one end of it with inflatable bladders to catch the whale in a soft 'pillow' in the event the system fails.

Of course they should just let the whales go, and stop the whole program. They're unlikely to do that anytime soon--that's the sad truth. So long as they keep them locked up, they should at least make their torture less onerous, and in the interim, while they're waiting to get the spirit and do the right thing, I think they should go talk to the Navy, specifically, the Naval architects who build submarines.

There's no way they could let the poor things go, now, anyway--not before they learn to swim in a straight line at speed....

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Yup. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #65

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thanks for the clarification and thoughts! CreekDog Apr 2015 #108

thanks for asking!!! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #109

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very good. reddread Apr 2015 #22

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I don't really know how to respond to the assertion Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #26

well, i guess thats called for? reddread Apr 2015 #29

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why should I keep silent when you wish to ignore the real threats to Orca? reddread Apr 2015 #36

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no, much better fish to fry. reddread Apr 2015 #45

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well. well. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #110

right if you cant fix everything why fix anything, right? Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #32

if you cannot distinguish between wild stocks and cute fuzzy pets reddread Apr 2015 #34

well keep tryin Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #37

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I can't do both? hunter Apr 2015 #57

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Watch the documentary "Blackfish" justiceischeap Apr 2015 #55

I saw it for the first time last week on Netflix. kcass1954 Apr 2015 #62

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Penny wise, pound foolish, I'd say. MADem Apr 2015 #94

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It's not just money. jeff47 Apr 2015 #118

I still think they should do it. Or at least try. MADem Apr 2015 #119

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