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mike_c

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3. something I don't understand about this story....
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:24 PM
Apr 2015

In particular, I don't understand why no one appears to be asking why Gray was arrested in the first place. In fairness, I don't have television, so I don't know whether this is being widely reported on TV and therefore not discussed online. But what probable cause did the cops think implicated Gray in any crime? The circumstance that he tried to leave the area when cops arrived? Hell, I usually try to be scarce whenever cops arrive unexpectedly-- they're violent, authoritarian, and encounters with them usually turn out badly. Is it a crime to try to avoid contact with cops?

I've also heard it reported that he was carrying a knife. I've heard it variously described as a "switchblade knife" and as a "springed folding knife" that can be opened with one hand. I have a folding knife with a locking spring that can be opened with one hand in my pocket right now. It's a plain pocket knife. The kind you use to open packages, maybe dig a splinter out or something similar. Yeah, I suppose I could use it to hijack an airplane. But is it illegal? Where do you get arrested for carrying a pocket knife on a public street? I certainly want to avoid that place just as much as I want to avoid spending street time with cops.

It sure seems apparent that Gray was injured by excessive force during his arrest. But why was he arrested? Was it just to harass the black guy who didn't want to be around while the cops were there? Is that illegal in Baltimore?

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The concept of limited hangout is about only admitting to what is known at the time HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #1
the initial injury could have been exacerbated gwheezie Apr 2015 #2
You are correct. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #10
the mayor said his request for medical tx was denied gwheezie Apr 2015 #14
something I don't understand about this story.... mike_c Apr 2015 #3
BWR...He made eye contact (supposedly) with the officers and ran. Black While Running...the knife libdem4life Apr 2015 #4
I agree with you gwheezie Apr 2015 #5
"No evidence of any use of excessive force." Well, except for the dead guy they killed. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #6
Surprised they didn't say "He died of natural causes." nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #7
This story stinks to high Heaven. think4yourself Apr 2015 #11
I think they're trying to figure out a way to sell that. yardwork Apr 2015 #29
Good point. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #19
That is what I was thinking. Kalidurga Apr 2015 #28
The police commissioner isn't saying anything about the injured larynx justiceischeap Apr 2015 #8
Breaking somebody's back and killing them... bvar22 Apr 2015 #9
It appears that it would take "dismemberment with a chain saw" etherealtruth Apr 2015 #12
It's called white washing canuckledragger Apr 2015 #13
I think it would be better to say something akin to .... etherealtruth Apr 2015 #17
maybe it's because they ARE sociopaths? canuckledragger Apr 2015 #25
I am with you etherealtruth Apr 2015 #27
If you use force to restrain someone and you end up breaking their neck and they rhett o rick Apr 2015 #33
The cops should have sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #15
It is apparent Roy Rolling Apr 2015 #16
This reminds me of the Cassandra Feuerstein case. lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #18
That was very violent and entirely unnecessary. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #21
i think the broken neck was evidence of excessive force samsingh Apr 2015 #20
the evidence of 'excessive force' is a 25 year old healthy man's death spanone Apr 2015 #22
The injuries and the subsequent death are themselves evidence of excessive force Moral Compass Apr 2015 #23
Listen to this prophet: Mr.Bill Apr 2015 #24
the only thing new is the video gwheezie Apr 2015 #26
I'll just leave these here. Mojo Electro Apr 2015 #30
um....except for the broken neck SoCalDem Apr 2015 #31
Another horrific murder mcar Apr 2015 #32
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