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Moral Compass

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23. The injuries and the subsequent death are themselves evidence of excessive force
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:43 PM
Apr 2015

The police who are always allowed to investigate themselves will always exonerate themselves.

Until we have citizen staffed boards of inquiry this will go on and on and on... And even then I'm not sure the problem would not remain.

Juries of citizens routinely exonerate the police in the most egregious cases.

The police are trained to instantly escalate when encountering any resistance. Resistance is to be met with overwhelming force.

He resisted. They met this with incapacitating force.

The video starts once they'd cuffed him. What happened before that? He was clearly taken down very, very hard and was already badly injured. There is no video of what happened in the van when he was most likely struggling in his restraints due to his agony. So, they stopped and forcefully further restrained him. I can imagine he might have been screaming so that a nice quick punch to the throat to shut him up might have been in order.

Again, the injuries themselves show that excessive force was used. To contend otherwise is absurd.

The concept of limited hangout is about only admitting to what is known at the time HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #1
the initial injury could have been exacerbated gwheezie Apr 2015 #2
You are correct. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #10
the mayor said his request for medical tx was denied gwheezie Apr 2015 #14
something I don't understand about this story.... mike_c Apr 2015 #3
BWR...He made eye contact (supposedly) with the officers and ran. Black While Running...the knife libdem4life Apr 2015 #4
I agree with you gwheezie Apr 2015 #5
"No evidence of any use of excessive force." Well, except for the dead guy they killed. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #6
Surprised they didn't say "He died of natural causes." nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #7
This story stinks to high Heaven. think4yourself Apr 2015 #11
I think they're trying to figure out a way to sell that. yardwork Apr 2015 #29
Good point. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #19
That is what I was thinking. Kalidurga Apr 2015 #28
The police commissioner isn't saying anything about the injured larynx justiceischeap Apr 2015 #8
Breaking somebody's back and killing them... bvar22 Apr 2015 #9
It appears that it would take "dismemberment with a chain saw" etherealtruth Apr 2015 #12
It's called white washing canuckledragger Apr 2015 #13
I think it would be better to say something akin to .... etherealtruth Apr 2015 #17
maybe it's because they ARE sociopaths? canuckledragger Apr 2015 #25
I am with you etherealtruth Apr 2015 #27
If you use force to restrain someone and you end up breaking their neck and they rhett o rick Apr 2015 #33
The cops should have sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #15
It is apparent Roy Rolling Apr 2015 #16
This reminds me of the Cassandra Feuerstein case. lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #18
That was very violent and entirely unnecessary. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #21
i think the broken neck was evidence of excessive force samsingh Apr 2015 #20
the evidence of 'excessive force' is a 25 year old healthy man's death spanone Apr 2015 #22
The injuries and the subsequent death are themselves evidence of excessive force Moral Compass Apr 2015 #23
Listen to this prophet: Mr.Bill Apr 2015 #24
the only thing new is the video gwheezie Apr 2015 #26
I'll just leave these here. Mojo Electro Apr 2015 #30
um....except for the broken neck SoCalDem Apr 2015 #31
Another horrific murder mcar Apr 2015 #32
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