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hack89

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Mon May 7, 2012, 11:18 AM May 2012

Occupy's anarchists seen as both divisive, crucial [View all]

Every time windows are smashed and clashes erupt with police at Occupy protests in Oakland and San Francisco, one group is in the thick of it: masked, black-clad anarchists known as the Black Bloc.

Police say they are pure trouble and point to conflicts at last week's May Day rallies as the most recent example. Most pacifist protesters wish they would go away. Hard-core Occupiers say they like having them around to diversify their movement's tactics.

Bagot said Black Bloc techniques are not tolerated at his group's protests. At one Occupy Bernal demonstration in February at the home of John Stumpf, chief executive officer of Wells Fargo, several local union members operated as monitors to keep in line Black Bloc-ers or others open to destruction.

But Lauren Smith, an organizer with Occupy Oakland, said the notion that the Black Bloc causes trouble is misguided. "The fact that police can single out the Black Bloc as troublemakers just shows that the police are trying to pit us against one another," Smith said. "They are saying the people who use tactics that directly confront police or damage property are bad, and the people who take no action are good.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/05/05/MNMP1OD850.DTL#ixzz1uCXRhzmg

Interesting discussion about Black Bloc and Occupy.

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A black bloc is not an organized group... ellisonz May 2012 #1
Do such tactics have a place in Occupy? hack89 May 2012 #2
No. n/t ellisonz May 2012 #3
Who has the authority to toss them? ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #17
The police... ellisonz May 2012 #19
So you want the police to remove people dressed in black from Occupy meetings? ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #20
"Unless an individual has acted illegally, the police cannot do anything." ellisonz May 2012 #21
So you are good with them being part of Occupy until they start to smash stuff ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #22
Hah... ellisonz May 2012 #23
Having watched Martin Luther King hold peaceful non-violent protests and then watching his jwirr May 2012 #5
No. Black Bloc techniques are unfair, not just. JDPriestly May 2012 #6
I find it hard to believe that such tactics are acceptable to some IDemo May 2012 #4
Or, worse, doing nothing to stop them. randome May 2012 #8
or black bloc = police/government paid agitators nt msongs May 2012 #7
So all Black Bloc participants are police? hack89 May 2012 #9
Police budgets must consume about half of our GDP 4th law of robotics May 2012 #11
Can you imagine what the unemployment rate would be hack89 May 2012 #13
Oh man, that would be horrifying 4th law of robotics May 2012 #14
So are you guys claiming them or not because you can't have it both ways LOL snooper2 May 2012 #15
I think they are mocking the notion that all Black Bloc members are provocateurs ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #18
I don't intend to sound like a conspiracy theorist, Jamaal510 May 2012 #10
Because, unlike Occupy, the Tea Party does not believe in non-violence? hack89 May 2012 #12
It's hard to bash the crap out of shit.. snooper2 May 2012 #16
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