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zeemike

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50. Just a comment on the history you refereed to.

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:18 PM

Apr 2015

When the north started winning the war was when Lincoln appointed U.S. Grant to lead the army of the north...he was nicknamed Unconditional Surrender Grant because when the Southern General sent him a note wanting to negotiate conditions of a surrender he replied "No conditions will be accepted other than unconditional surender"...and he got it...and he became famous and popular overnight because of that.

And his good friend General Sherman said "I can make Georgia howl" and he did and the war was over.
Both of them understood that you don't negotiate from a weak position...And ours don't get that.

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Republicans are the enemy; our generals suck. [View all] MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 OP

Well said. nt el_bryanto Apr 2015 #1

Dear readers RobertEarl Apr 2015 #20

Huh? No one is talking about not fighting. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #23

How will you fight? RobertEarl Apr 2015 #24

How will I change the course of history? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #25

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Wow your getting a bit nasty here. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #28

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Who are you to question why I post here? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #34

It appears the plan is to beat them by joining them Dragonfli Apr 2015 #29

Do you agree that we need new representatives who are FIGHTING not COMPROMISING with, the Enemy? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #72

I have been volunteering in the special election in my district. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #73

What state are you in? Not familiar with Gentile. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #74

NY. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #75

I remember now, Grimm convicted of tax crimes. The seat has been empty for months. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #82

Yes. Donovan the Republican is getting bad press for not knowing the federal minimum wage. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #83

Donovan refused to take the bail money from Ramsey Orta, the guy who videotaped the killing of sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #84

Yeah he did Garner wrong with no indictment of that cop who killed him. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #85

He Means Our Leadership Is Neutered billhicks76 Apr 2015 #80

Ok i agree but ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #81

Will Clinton fight for economic equality? Will she fight Wall Street and Goldman-Sachs? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #98

Yes I think she will fight for us. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #99

Will she break up the banks? Regulate dirivitives? Support transaction fees? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #104

Nomone is ever going to break up the banks. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #106

K&R hay rick Apr 2015 #2

Remember that Sun Tzu said all war was deception Fumesucker Apr 2015 #3

Dunkirk was a glorious victory for Britain MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #5

Pah, Dunkirk was nothing Fumesucker Apr 2015 #12

I can't even count the number of dimensions MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #30

hey, any battle you can run away from... n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #15

Sir Robin is a FIGHTER and a WINNER MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #19

That reminds me, I'm cooking pork for dinner. n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #21

Excuse me? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #33

In fact, Dunkirk was a glorious victory for Britain QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #59

You mean they are keeping their powder dry? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #76

The only ones being deceived are the HRC supporters Joe Turner Apr 2015 #86

Thanks for pissing off all the "right" people. L0oniX Apr 2015 #93

And that is why our party will nominate Hillary. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #4

I see they finally mailed you a check. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #6

I want my $2! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #9

What were General Hillary's few greatest victories, to date? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #27

She as a senator supported minimum wage increases. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #31

And she won those battles? nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #35

not all by herself if that is what you mean. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #37

Since Hillary became a general, MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #41

No but that is not her fault. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #42

The point of my post is that great generals win MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #43

And who are our great generals? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #44

Certainly Elizabeth Warren fought and won on CFPB MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #46

She is not running. i agree she coukd Hillary a race but she has not shown any desire to do it. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #47

Manny, I know your heart is in the right place, but Warren is not running QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #63

. Agschmid Apr 2015 #78

Hillary has not been a general yet. KMOD Apr 2015 #53

No? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #55

Obviously not. KMOD Apr 2015 #61

She's going to raise 840high Apr 2015 #39

Sure she will. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #40

She tried to end the scourge of flag burning that hurts the 99% deeply? Dragonfli Apr 2015 #36

Who could argue as to the great benefit to America, MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #38

If she is nominated it will be because she has the backing of big money. Has nothing to do rhett o rick Apr 2015 #100

It will have to do with the fact Democrats who are the 99 percent voted for her. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #101

I hope you don't deny that money can influence voters. That's why big money donates so rhett o rick Apr 2015 #103

I think Democratic voters are smart and can see who is the best choice. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #105

There is a problem with your analogy BainsBane Apr 2015 #7

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #10

Thank you Senator Blutarsky! nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #11

Forget it, he's rolling. Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #14

No, Dean, it wasn't MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #57

You have a point. This war, and we are in a war, a class war, is not between rhett o rick Apr 2015 #102

I addressed that kind of dismissal BainsBane Apr 2015 #108

I agree I have no right to speak for you and the same goes for you speaking for me. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #113

I have never tried to speak for you BainsBane Apr 2015 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Apr 2015 #115

That's good of you BainsBane Apr 2015 #119

What??? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #116

K&R..... daleanime Apr 2015 #8

The part I agreed with the most KMOD Apr 2015 #13

There's a difference between "get the job done" and "finish the job" Scootaloo Apr 2015 #16

Ya gotta help me out here. KMOD Apr 2015 #18

our generals are republicans Doctor_J Apr 2015 #17

Said another way, OUR republicans are our generals Dragonfli Apr 2015 #22

Sorry, but I disagree with your assumption... Sancho Apr 2015 #45

Do you have any examples of generals who consistently lost battles for decades MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #48

We haven't had wars that lasted decades ... kwassa Apr 2015 #54

A rather lackluster military man who turned things around in the end was.. Sancho Apr 2015 #62

They won because of Eisenhower, Bradley, and Patton. nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #65

The won because of greater resources... Sancho Apr 2015 #87

To a great extent, the allies in the West won because of ENIGMA. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #69

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #79

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #97

I recommend the book, Team of Rivals. Obama is said to have liked it too. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #67

Couldn't have said it better, Mbrow Apr 2015 #49

If you're in a solid red state BainsBane Apr 2015 #88

Just a comment on the history you refereed to. zeemike Apr 2015 #50

They, and their families, seem to profit handsomely MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #51

Yes he was and yes he did. zeemike Apr 2015 #56

And he hatedhatedhated every minute of it MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #58

Yes he did and as you say he was a fascinating man. zeemike Apr 2015 #66

Yeah, he helped win the war by raping, looting, and pillaging civilians Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #68

Well he is the one who said war is hell. zeemike Apr 2015 #70

He seemed to enjoy the hell he created for others Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #117

It was necessary to end slavery MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #71

If Sherman had done the same thing in this day and age, Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #118

I'm with you Manny! haikugal Apr 2015 #52

The rec counter, unlike perks for the generals, edgineered Apr 2015 #60

K&R. Excellent, Manny. Thanks. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #64

But they have a D after their names, doesn't that count for anything? GoneFishin Apr 2015 #77

K&R Scuba Apr 2015 #89

I love how you start this off as "Republicans are the enemy" and then talk about Lincoln justiceischeap Apr 2015 #90

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K&R 99Forever Apr 2015 #91

If Republicans are the enemy, Progressive dog Apr 2015 #92

Excellen Post - nt dirtydickcheney Apr 2015 #94

"Forward, he cried, from the rear, as the front rank died. Generals sat, as the lines Zorra Apr 2015 #96

Winning Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #107

Do you include President Obama in that group of MineralMan Apr 2015 #109

Read through the top responses. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #112

well said samsingh Apr 2015 #110

Fight, yes. But charge the matador, not the cape. Orsino Apr 2015 #111

Is this a two part article or are you going for a trilogy? Rex Apr 2015 #120