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In reply to the discussion: Obama: Elizabeth Warren Is Simply Wrong On TPP [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,090 posts)94. Not the same process
Yet the actual text of the agreement remains under lock and key. That represents a significant break from the Bush administration, which in 2001 published the text of a proposed multinational trade agreement with Latin American nations.
It is incomprehensible to me that leaders of major corporate interests who stand to gain enormous financial benefits from this agreement are actively involved in the writing of the TPP, while at the same time, the elected officials of this country, representing the American people, have little or no knowledge of whats in it, wrote U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in a letter to Froman last month.
Sanders office confirms that congressional lawmakers are permitted to view the text of the agreement only in the Trade Representatives office, without their own staff members or experts present. They are not allowed to take copies of the agreement back to Capitol Hill for deeper, independent evaluation.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/06/the_depressing_explanation_why_the_trans_pacific_partnership_is_being_kept_secret_partner/
It is incomprehensible to me that leaders of major corporate interests who stand to gain enormous financial benefits from this agreement are actively involved in the writing of the TPP, while at the same time, the elected officials of this country, representing the American people, have little or no knowledge of whats in it, wrote U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in a letter to Froman last month.
Sanders office confirms that congressional lawmakers are permitted to view the text of the agreement only in the Trade Representatives office, without their own staff members or experts present. They are not allowed to take copies of the agreement back to Capitol Hill for deeper, independent evaluation.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/06/the_depressing_explanation_why_the_trans_pacific_partnership_is_being_kept_secret_partner/
Sen. Sanders letter: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/letter-to-united-states-trade-representative?inline=file
The push for fast-track legislation comes as concerns about transparency in trade deals reach a fever pitch. U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman said in January that the fast-track bill "puts Congress in the drivers seat to define our negotiating objectives and strengthens congressional oversight." But unlike past free trade agreements, only a handful of congressional staffers on key committees have access to the full text of the TPP. Rank-and-file members of Congress have very limited access to the TPP, being able to take only limited notes and having to schedule in advance an opportunity to view the text. Many members of Congress have been up in arms about the lack of transparency, including Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., one of the lead sponsors of the fast-track legislation. Wyden has criticized the administration for a lack of transparency, particularly around intellectual property issues.
http://www.ibtimes.com/fast-track-authority-president-4-key-facts-about-proposed-trans-pacific-partnership-1888879
http://www.ibtimes.com/fast-track-authority-president-4-key-facts-about-proposed-trans-pacific-partnership-1888879
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Sorry, I looked for it prior to posting it, and didn't seen anything about it....
a kennedy
Apr 2015
#9
Glad to see you posting here. Got a few qustions about the protests in EU regarding the TTIP.
jwirr
Apr 2015
#111
Warren should prove Obama is wrong, she is the one making the claim it's wrong for America.
Lil Missy
Apr 2015
#12
It was if you weren't White, Male, and Landed. Not mad at you, but just sayin=)
Volaris
Apr 2015
#162
And we always get fucked over so *always* isn't very compelling or attractive.
TheKentuckian
Apr 2015
#139
Has nothing to do with what I will. Pure observation. Do you have some argument that these deals
TheKentuckian
Apr 2015
#145
As predicted, you have no argument that these "free trade" deals have not been harmful
TheKentuckian
Apr 2015
#148
Our hair is not on fire. Nor do we want the details of the negotiations. We want access to the plan
jwirr
Apr 2015
#113
"Always done it that way" doesn't make it right and doesn't mean it's a good deal.
Dawgs
Apr 2015
#99
But Congress will know when they vote. And fast track doesn't meant they must approve it.
freshwest
Apr 2015
#71
Partly it's the rush for time to respond to stories, need to get ratings, and failing to reflect.
freshwest
Apr 2015
#157
Yes, heaven forbid that massive trade deals are negotiated in confidence. You know, like they always
underahedgerow
Apr 2015
#161
Can you explain the details in simple terms? Are their enforcement protections built in, and other
still_one
Apr 2015
#33
Yes, you have to read several sources including the negotiating text, USTR site, Obama explanations,
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#46
Outraged Sherrod Brown: 12 Hours Notice for Hearings, Secret Meetings, Staff Not Able to View TPP.
KoKo
Apr 2015
#55
Brown, whom I really like when he's not playing politics, shouldn't have waited to the last minute
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#72
Yeah it is Brown and Warren lying and Ryan, McConnell, Paul, the Chamber of Commerce,
TheKentuckian
Apr 2015
#143
No it's not, you can look it up yourself. If true, she's not doing a very good job keeping
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#73
This is the problem. The deal was done in secret, and because of that glances are obtained from
still_one
Apr 2015
#31
what fucking facts? the secret facts? oh, trust me, he said, I'm a liberal he said.
elehhhhna
Apr 2015
#34
The fact that they want to do it fast and secret tells me everything I need to know..
yourout
Apr 2015
#35
I wish a reporter would ask him.."How is TPP different from NAFTA which decimated our....
yourout
Apr 2015
#39
Here's your chance, Elizabeth, now you've not only got the banksters in your sight, but
libdem4life
Apr 2015
#60
Let's see. Who is keeping it secret, and who wants to examine it out in the open?
GoneFishin
Apr 2015
#62
I'm sorry Mr President, history of these trade agreements says you are wrong on TPP.
Dont call me Shirley
Apr 2015
#66
Not the first question the president and I have disagreed over. Such is life.
cheapdate
Apr 2015
#68
I remember a guy promising in 2008 to get us out of NAFTA. Apparently he was wrong too? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#116