Burying Bill - Clinton that is...

[Warren DeMontague]

35. Okay, first off, he didn't "commit perjury on national tv". He lied on national tv, which is not the

same thing.

Perjury can only occur in a court of law. Arguments were made during the impeachment that he perjured himself before a grand jury, but that wasn't on national tv.

Now, I don't think he should have lied. I think instead of wagging his finger about "not doing x with that woman", he should have wagged his finger and said "yes, I did it, if anyone can be mad at me it's my wife, now get the fuck out of my pants and let me do my job"

Are they "on the same plane"? No. But again, they were both ADULTS. And they were both consenting. Lots of sexual relationships happen between adults in all kinds of potentially sticky situations, that doesn't make them criminal. Monica Lewinsky, as far as I know, never alleged that there was any sexual harassment or job-and power-based pressure involved in the relationship. She took responsiblity for her part in it, and she never claimed it wasn't totally consensual.

Either "adults" and "consent" mean something, or they don't. They don't magically stop meaning something when someone decides that the consenting adults aren't "equally matched". 40somethings and 20somethings have relationships all the time. Is that how I roll? No. But it's not illegal, either.

Similarly, lots of married people- even ones with kids- have affairs. Is that how I roll? No. But is it my business, if everyone is a consenting adult? No. It's for them to work out with their spouses and families, or preferably not to enter into a relationship presumably based on trust and commitment if they aren't going to adhere to them. But again, that's for them to work out, not me--- and it has jack diddly to do with the President's ability to do the job he's elected to do.

Should he have done it? No. But should I be in charge of the sex lives of other consenting adults? No. Should he have been impeached over it, should it have been plastered all over the news for 2 years? FUCK NO.

I didn't get morally indignant over it then, I sure as shit am not going to start now.