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In reply to the discussion: Obama talks TPP on Hardball. Thoughts? [View all]djean111
(14,255 posts)92. We are probably already eating it. I don't buy shrimp at all any more.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/consumers-eating-feces-tainted-shrimp-fish-seafood-asia/story?id=17491264
The defense to this is that they have always done this.
I suppose we should not care about this stuff, and eat it anyway, just to be polite.
The November issue of Bloomberg Markets magazine, in a piece on food poisoning and safety, says that it is common practice in some parts of Asia to feed fish pig waste. It describes, for example, the sanitary conditions at a fish factory on the southern coast of Vietnam. "Flies," it says, "crawl over baskets of processed shrimp."
The shrimp at some plants are packed in ice. That's good. What's bad: it's ice made from water often found to be contaminated with bacteria and unfit for human consumption, say Bloomberg's reporters in Hanoi.
Vietnam ships 100 million pounds of shrimp a year to the U.S., about 8 percent of the shrimp sold in America.
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Outside Hong Kong, at a tilapia farm, fish are fed a diet that includes pig and geese feces. That practice, Michael Doyle tells Bloomberg Markets, is unsafe for U.S. consumers, because the manure may be contaminated with salmonella. Doyle is director of the Center for Food Safety at the University of Georgia. Fish farmers, he says, use fecal matter as a cheaper alternative to commercial fish food.
The FDA inspects food shipments to the United States, including seafood shipments, but the agency's resources are limited, says Bloomberg's report. It is able to inspect fewer than 3 percent of shipments. Of that, reports Bloomberg, much is sent back. The FDA has rejected 1,380 shipments of Vietnamese seafood since 2007, finding filth and salmonella.
The defense to this is that they have always done this.
I suppose we should not care about this stuff, and eat it anyway, just to be polite.
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Many jobs are created with trade. Wherever it's cheapest for them to exist.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Apr 2015
#79
Well, we got a couple of lowdown posts on this thread purporting to address that.
merrily
Apr 2015
#45
Yes, it does. But it is possible for something to be good for both workers and corporations.
DanTex
Apr 2015
#76
The problem I think is that the only person who knows the FACTS is the PRESIDENT.
napi21
Apr 2015
#30
Yes that is the problem, the shroud of secrecy as to the deal all the way around and under it.
lonestarnot
Apr 2015
#36
+1. Something in his voice and manner when he was saying "they're wrong"
winter is coming
Apr 2015
#21
Well the US Chamber of Commerce, Orin Hatch and Paul Ryan are for it so what's not to love?
neverforget
Apr 2015
#31
Haven't seen "some here" say that. if you have, you should have asked them to explain, not me.
merrily
Apr 2015
#48
Why are the Republicans giddy, and happy about this deal? Why is there, after years of calling the
myrna minx
Apr 2015
#29
Disgusting to equate opposition to TPP with xenophobia on the part of Democrats.
merrily
Apr 2015
#40
It's clear some folks don't give a darn about some poor Mexican or Vietnamese when it comes to
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#44
The one that says if Republicans support it, it must be wrong. Well Tbaggers support your view of
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#54
why does the US Chamber of Commerce, Sen Orin Hatch and Rep Paul Ryan support it while
neverforget
Apr 2015
#57
Then why didn't Obama say hey - this will suck for Americans and drive down American wages
djean111
Apr 2015
#65
Because improving conditions in foreign countries is good for the USA in many ways.
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#66
And the Americans who are jobless or can only get jobs at lower wages and less benefits are
djean111
Apr 2015
#68
We are not going to have good jobs trading among ourselves. No, I am for Social Security and
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#80
I don't believe we are meant to have access to affordable education and health care.
djean111
Apr 2015
#84
Fortunately, Democrats are starting to speak out. Just heard Rep Gerry Connolly note why he solidly
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#91
True. You seem to believe you are powerless to keep your wages from dropping to Vietnamese levels.
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#96
There is a chance of that if you have no real skills and our economy is on decline. That's
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#97
Progressives and liberals have consistently been against job sucking trade deals
myrna minx
Apr 2015
#61
I hear ya, lovemydog. As someone said.. it's not "condescending".. Pres Obama believes this
Cha
Apr 2015
#56
No bubba didn't. Bubba whipped up NAFTA, which sucks ass. No one really knows what is in
lonestarnot
Apr 2015
#42
The one thing everyone on this board agrees about is that Obama can speak persuarively when he wants
merrily
Apr 2015
#38
Good post. I would like to see Obama or someone pro-TPP address those points also.
DanTex
Apr 2015
#73
That's exactly what Obama addressed. Not all "free trade agreements" are the same.
DanTex
Apr 2015
#78
The garbage in the post above is about trade and only a small part of TPP.
Elwood P Dowd
Apr 2015
#111