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pampango

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4. It is fascinating to me how "national sovereignty" competes with "enforceable standards"

Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:58 PM

Apr 2015

in an agreement such as the TPP.

If anything good is to come from the TPP, many liberals (not conservatives of course) want high "enforceable standards" on labor rights and the environment. The presence of 'high standards' won't mean much if there is no effective enforcement mechanism.

But the presence of effective enforcement mechanisms requires the existence of a way to force national governments to do something they were not going to do otherwise, in essence limiting their 'national sovereignty'.

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Fact or Fiction: Does the Hatch-Wyden-Obama Trade Promotion Authority Bill Protect U.S. Sovereignty [View all] cali Apr 2015 OP

kick, kick and kick cali Apr 2015 #1

The last paragraphs of the article: enough Apr 2015 #2

thank you. cali Apr 2015 #3

It is fascinating to me how "national sovereignty" competes with "enforceable standards" pampango Apr 2015 #4

yeah, that's an interesting point. cali Apr 2015 #5

this is important information: cali Apr 2015 #6

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The very appropriately named "Section 8." Scuba Apr 2015 #8

So if why include such language in the bill at all? HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #9

yeah, either way, its not encouraging cali Apr 2015 #10

Nice analysis davidpdx Apr 2015 #11

I'm assuming your senator is Wyden cali Apr 2015 #12

Yep davidpdx Apr 2015 #13

another kick for light, not heat cali Apr 2015 #14

thanks for this cali! k&r neverforget Apr 2015 #15

inform your argument against the claim cali Apr 2015 #16

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Wow that is some convoluted language fasttense Apr 2015 #18

Here is where Aerows Apr 2015 #19

I found that analysis quite enlightening cali Apr 2015 #20

We are on the same page! n/t Aerows Apr 2015 #21

Thanks for this, cali. smokey nj Apr 2015 #22

perhaps because it's specific and analysis of something we are able to access cali Apr 2015 #23