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tritsofme

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24. President Obama deserves an up or down vote. Amending is the same as rejecting

Wed Apr 22, 2015, 07:03 PM

Apr 2015

That's why the agreement needs to be considered under TPA.

Obama cannot be a credible negotiator without TPA. If Congress can overturn the fine points of a multi-party back and forth negotiation line by line, then Obama's word is meaningless, and his partners could not trust him or his commitments.

It is not practical to have 536 people at the negotiating table. But TPA gives Congress a voice by setting objectives for the USTR, direct oversight, and detailed status reports on the negotiations.

If it is a bad agreement, Congress should reject it. But President Obama deserves to get an up or down vote on the deal that he negotiates.

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Could Someone Please Tell Me Why Obama Supports Fast Track and TPP [View all] QuestionAlways Apr 2015 OP

trust him! cali Apr 2015 #1

I am asking why I should, give me one reason QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #4

Same reason he does so many awful things. Scuba Apr 2015 #2

THIS, and polichick's post immediately below. hifiguy Apr 2015 #16

His golf buddies stand to make money? The people who tagged him for the presidency... polichick Apr 2015 #3

Three theories: "Bad guy", idiot or really believes in it. pampango Apr 2015 #5

But any renegotiation should also be reviewed by congress, not a reason QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #9

Indeed. It should and will. Unlike the Iranian and Cuban agreements and the recent pampango Apr 2015 #11

But Fast Track will limit the time QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #20

True, but it will be approved or rejected by Congress. As it should be. pampango Apr 2015 #25

Fast track is a scam which allows Congress to shirk it's Constitutional duty, and to GoneFishin Apr 2015 #28

Actually Congress and the public will be able review it. procon Apr 2015 #29

I vote option three, Really Believes It LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #13

Can't tell you but most presidents of my life time TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #6

But most international trade barriers have already been knocked down QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #12

Comfortable post presidency retirement assurance program. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #7

And this. hifiguy Apr 2015 #17

Habitat for Humanity? Yeah. Him and Rahm Emanuel. NOT. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #30

Congress can, and will, debate in open. They'll debate overall agreement and vote for or against it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #8

It is Liberals, Progressives and Democrats who are mainly against it. QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #21

Any debate on TPP with fast track is meaningless Joe Turner Apr 2015 #26

For something so secret, you sure seem to know a lot about it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #31

We can thank Wikileaks and several others Joe Turner Apr 2015 #32

Simple, the agreement isn't finished. Hoyt Apr 2015 #33

Now that's funny Joe Turner Apr 2015 #34

Good.. You are finally starting to get it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #35

Actually I had it figured out ohhh a couple of decades ago Joe Turner Apr 2015 #36

To give cover to Hillary so she doesn't have to say anything about it. Until it's to late. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #10

because sacrificing our most valuable industries for the limited benefit of dead one's is dumb Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #14

+1. Looks like we are in a "race to the bottom" trading among ourselves because of chronic myopia. Hoyt Apr 2015 #18

I'm frustrated by the inherent ignorance and or dishonesty of it all Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #22

I suspect LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #15

Simple. The President's 2nd term is almost up. The ex-Presidency can be a very lucrative gig. nt Romulox Apr 2015 #19

Surrounded by Wall Streeters? moondust Apr 2015 #23

President Obama deserves an up or down vote. Amending is the same as rejecting tritsofme Apr 2015 #24

cui bono/follow the money guillaumeb Apr 2015 #27