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Monk06

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54. TTP is about replacing national sovereignty with corporate sovereignty. That is what globalism is.

Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:43 AM

Apr 2015

Once signed corporations can sue national governments to overturn legislation that effects their profitablility.

That's wage, employment, environmental and tax rules.

Corporations will be able to veto national energy, employment and environmental legislation.

It's NAFTA for the Pacific Rim.

It won't force Chinese polluters to clean up their act, as Obama claimed on Chris Mathiews. It will allow Chinese and American companies to sue the Canadian government if they are asked to pay for cleanup in the Alberta Oil Sands. Same goes in any other country on the list of signatories.

In other words we go from no rules to Corporations making the rules. Who could argue with that, soon to be rich former president Obama asks?

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TPP is nothing more than DLC lipstick and makeup applied to a giant republican/corporate pig. [View all] Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 OP

K&R SamKnause Apr 2015 #1

Oh, goody! NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #2

Mitch McConnell says thank you for supporting TPP. (nm) Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 #3

So does Rand Paul! nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #8

Oh dear, I had heard this board was infested with Paulites, but I didn't want to believe it. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2015 #10

Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul are good honest men. They would never lead us astray. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #24

You sir Joe Worker Apr 2015 #51

I haven't read it. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #11

Has it been released to the public? newfie11 Apr 2015 #29

"Leaks" have popped up on the internetz ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #39

Nobody came out to deny the legitimacy of these leaked documents. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #42

Hmm, yeah. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #43

Hmm, yeah, sure, whatever. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #44

Pretty much everything on the internet ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #45

"Please post the links to the "verification" done by said politicians, journalists, and so on." BeanMusical Apr 2015 #46

Uh, no, sweetie ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #47

For someone who pretends to be a writer you don't know much about fact checking, now do you? BeanMusical Apr 2015 #49

I have never "pretended" to be a writer ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #50

One thing you do know is that Republicans support it. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #68

Sorry, but ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #69

Tell me, in the last 6 years, what have Republicans supported that you agree with? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #71

Can you explain why the US Chamber of Commerce, Orrin Hatch and Paul Ryan are for it neverforget Apr 2015 #5

When Orrin Hatch is co-author of legislation, bend over and bite on the towell. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 #15

Bernie too of course. Even Sen. Harry Reid is agin' it- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #35

At least we will have the consolation Joe Worker Apr 2015 #52

Out so soon? n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #55

I can recognize a coup when I see one Joe Worker Apr 2015 #56

Out too soon. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #58

I am still learning Joe Worker Apr 2015 #60

The DLC hasn't existed for years. Gman Apr 2015 #4

Their lipstick, makeup, and talking points haven't gone anywhere. (nm) Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 #7

Yet their ideology, founders, think tanks, and goals live on (ever hear of re-branding) Dragonfli Apr 2015 #9

It's a case of rebranding. They already have a name ready to replace Third Way. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #25

Irrelevant. The "philosophy" lives in the offshoots and philosophical kin of the DLC: merrily Apr 2015 #14

Well, this post ensures that I don't take anything you say seriously going forward. stillwaiting Apr 2015 #28

When you've cemented control of the DNC... Oilwellian Apr 2015 #38

Accorn hasn't existed for years. One of the 99 Apr 2015 #66

in secret, stampede it thru with no changes or deep study time, rush rush rush. msongs Apr 2015 #6

Funny how it took years to forge yet the passing of it needs be rushed. Dragonfli Apr 2015 #12

"...and if you're one of the first 100 congresscritters to support FTA, Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #59

George Bush also tried what Obama is trying now, to Fast Track a Trade bill. He failed. In 2007. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #13

It's like Whac-A-Mole, a constant battle. And often R=D=I when it comes to big $$$$$'s IMO. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #27

"if a Repub doesn't get it done, they try it with a Dem" FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #40

Just like NAFTA. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 #72

Bribery has become a simple business expense Joe Worker Apr 2015 #63

I'm Ready For Oligarchy - Are You? - Support Obama On TPP - Elect HRC To Continue The Charade cantbeserious Apr 2015 #16

Here is the TPP Oligarch love song. "Yes, I'm Ready". Elwood P Dowd Apr 2015 #18

Perfect - Silky Smooth Pipes To Mollify The Masses As The 99% Are Led To Slaughter cantbeserious Apr 2015 #19

+1 A slow, miserable path to the Glue Factory appalachiablue Apr 2015 #36

I think their songs are like betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #37

Yep, Goldman & co. own both parties. Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #30

Bing! Joe Worker Apr 2015 #62

Exactly Joe Worker Apr 2015 #53

It's a corporate coup. I say that because of the corporate courts that will JDPriestly Apr 2015 #17

https://vikkilittlemore.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/obama.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #20

https://whitehouse.gov1.info/photos7/obama-laughing.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #21

http://media.townhall.com/townhall/reu/ha/2014/169/31fd1d44-b416-4bdc-ada9-9267a7930c79.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #22

Democrats are inclined to believe the President even if he is being less than honest. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #23

I've seen several Britney Spears style loyalists here. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #26

Vomit inducing indeed. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #33

Moreso when it comes from people on this site than when it's just some young singer's opinion! FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #41

Well, some of them are wearing very thick rose-colored glasses. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #48

Bingo. 99Forever Apr 2015 #31

Who is your Rep? What are they saying? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #32

Could be. moondust Apr 2015 #34

TTP is about replacing national sovereignty with corporate sovereignty. That is what globalism is. Monk06 Apr 2015 #54

So far as we know Joe Worker Apr 2015 #57

An American, Australian or Canadian corporation could sue their governments or each others Monk06 Apr 2015 #61

That would be the pig in the poke that I keep talking about rock Apr 2015 #64

Ayup. AzDar Apr 2015 #65

I like the way you turn a phrase Autumn Apr 2015 #67

The brainwashing happens on both sides - one corporate party, two faces... polichick Apr 2015 #70