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36. I get what you're saying. TPP detractors, however, are extremely vocal about

Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:05 AM

Apr 2015

how obviously bad TPP is. I mean, according to them, it's the stuff of nightmares. How could Obama not see that? Why would he take such a different view and what does he know that we don't know? If what they're saying is true, he'd have to be as right-wing as Bush to think TPP is good. Either that, or he'd have to be absolutely incompetent and unfit for the presidency to be that ignorant about the consequences of TPP.

There are a lot of questions about TPP and not a lot of answers. There's also a lot of hand-wringing and yelling, and not a lot of reasoned information. I've noticed that the internet often stirs people up and they can get very excitable and just stop listening and start insulting anyone who doesn't agree with them. I wonder if that's what is happening with this TPP debate.

I do like Elizabeth Warren, but I'm not as gung-ho as some people because I question why she was a republican well into her 40's. If she didn't know what republicans were about by 40 years old, maybe her judgment isn't completely sound.

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So Who's right? [View all] Phlem Apr 2015 OP

Probably Warren. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1

That would be my pick as well. Phlem Apr 2015 #4

No way of knowing... MaggieD Apr 2015 #2

And what " Necessity " keeping us in the dark, while CEO's orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #7

There are several reasons.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #10

Nuclear arms negtiations & World Economy are two different subjects orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #17

Negotiations 101 MaggieD Apr 2015 #23

What??? where are you getting this shit ? orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #24

It's not "s@&t". Nor is it true that only CEOs have had input, or know what is in it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #27

That's a bigger crock of s@&T, than the one your trying to defend, read up orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #29

If it is available on the internet, it's not a secret. Hoyt Apr 2015 #32

Why isn't it a secret ??? Transparency ??? orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #34

Where am I getting what shit? MaggieD Apr 2015 #42

umm ALL Senators and Reps have access to it. annabanana Apr 2015 #44

Lots of info available MaggieD Apr 2015 #46

I'm gonna go with Liz. Autumn Apr 2015 #3

Why? Just curious MaggieD Apr 2015 #11

Based on what has been leaked so far and the Politicians that are speaking Autumn Apr 2015 #14

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #18

So you don't know anything really? MaggieD Apr 2015 #22

Three chapters have been leaked. Some damn good Democrats are fighting it. Autumn Apr 2015 #40

So if Bernie doesn't tell you, you don't know? MaggieD Apr 2015 #43

You are not interested in what I think and why I don't support the TPP Autumn Apr 2015 #45

I'm very interested in what YOU think MaggieD Apr 2015 #47

Over on this side of the Pacific, Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #25

That alone, if true, says that it's a REALLY bad idea for Japan. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #37

I would guess that Korean farmers would be against it as well davidpdx Apr 2015 #38

That is horrible. "for the benefit of 1.5%" And without a doubt for the benefit of the 1% here. Autumn Apr 2015 #41

I think I will post that as a stand alone OP Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #49

I agree with Autumn Maggie and also because Phlem Apr 2015 #19

Your tech job went to Mexico? Sorry that happened, but glad you recovered. Hoyt Apr 2015 #28

Who is right ??? SamKnause Apr 2015 #5

Is Grayson against it too? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #12

Yes. SamKnause Apr 2015 #15

All three got their money from the people, and that's who they owe . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #21

Warren, Sherrod Brown fredamae Apr 2015 #6

This could be the last shot for Democracy . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #8

I know (she says quietly) n/t fredamae Apr 2015 #9

Yeah, well we lost that a while back. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #13

I'll go out on a limb and say whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #16

yep. Phlem Apr 2015 #20

Warren, Grayson and sanders. When was the last time all 3of them led the 99% astray? merrily Apr 2015 #26

The usual rule: Whoever agrees with me is right. pampango Apr 2015 #30

research it and if you possess any critical thinking skills at all cali Apr 2015 #31

Why would Obama willingly participate in and advocate BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #33

I think, though, that you need to look at it from where they stand justiceischeap Apr 2015 #35

I get what you're saying. TPP detractors, however, are extremely vocal about BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #36

As much as I love President Obama, I would go with Warren davidpdx Apr 2015 #39

Check the evidence of the claims of the free trade advocates vs. the results. mmonk Apr 2015 #48

Warren. woo me with science Apr 2015 #50

It was Col. Mustard in the study, with the pipe wrench. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #51