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girl gone mad

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15. Tax increases destroy dollars.
Mon May 7, 2012, 03:09 PM
May 2012

I'm sorry, this is not a right-wing framing, this is basic monetary theory. We exist under a sovereign fiat currency regime. Our federal government spends money into existence and taxes money out of existence. When you mail your cash or check to the IRS or send an electronic transfer, the money is literally destroyed. Cash is shredded, money is taken out of your account. It doesn't get transferred to some agency to help cover federal employee wages or buy a new aircraft carrier. It vanishes.

Reducing the deficit is a completely idiotic goal which has no meaning and no basis in reality. Deficits are not in and of themselves a matter to be concerned with unless and until inflation becomes a serious threat. Do you honestly believe inflation is currently a threat?

You cannot compare the economic situation in 1993 to the present economic situation. In 1993, we were still in the credit growth cycle. Private sector debt was increasing. Right now we are in the midst of debt deflation and credit deleveraging.

I think there will be a time to raise taxes on the rich, but that time is not now. As long as the banks remain out of control and the lobbyists run Washington, any tax increase would be for show as the wealthy will ensure they have loopholes in place or means to shelter their wealth anyhow. This is not the fight progressives should be pursuing right now, in my view. It's a waste of time and resources.

Increased parity should be our goal. Again, that's best achieved by reigning in the financial sector and federal spending to put people back to work.

Son't forget Argentina and Iceland malaise May 2012 #1
Or South America, which has rejected the Global Corps for the past decade. sabrina 1 May 2012 #8
Venezuela, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil, Nicaragua, El Salvador... DutchLiberal May 2012 #10
Absolutely. There are plenty of examples of the failures of austerity. If they (the corporations) jwirr May 2012 #30
Iceland accepted IMF austerity measures in order to borrow billions. nt hack89 May 2012 #28
emulate france = have a candidate left of current management, which we do not nt msongs May 2012 #2
I don't think we should raise taxes significantly right now. girl gone mad May 2012 #3
Did you forget the sarcasm emoticon? You can't be serious, right? Lionessa May 2012 #4
Unfortunately, history doesn't back up your claim jeff47 May 2012 #11
Unfortunately, this presumption is not accurate in our present framework. girl gone mad May 2012 #12
Again, history does not agree with you. jeff47 May 2012 #14
Tax increases destroy dollars. girl gone mad May 2012 #15
That is a truly stunning amount of wrong to put into a single post. jeff47 May 2012 #16
"Money flows into that account via taxes and bond sales" girl gone mad May 2012 #17
Still wrong jeff47 May 2012 #19
Your post is totally off base. girl gone mad May 2012 #20
No, you only like to think it is jeff47 May 2012 #21
How has MMT been proven wrong by this current crisis? girl gone mad May 2012 #25
And now we shift again. jeff47 May 2012 #31
Winning the election while making promises of a great life is easy. Producing those results is hard. dkf May 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #6
When there is a referendum on whether the economy is in place to serve the citizens (or vice versa), Snarkoleptic May 2012 #7
Greeks gave 8% of the vote to neo-nazi party; for first time in 4 decades they'll be in parliament.. DutchLiberal May 2012 #9
The Greeks will be going back on the drachma with a 50% cut in the standard of living. FarCenter May 2012 #22
And the neo-nazi's are going to change that... how? DutchLiberal May 2012 #23
After a period of chaos, they will get a dictatorship of either the right or the left FarCenter May 2012 #24
Yes, hurrah for communist of fascist dictatorship! DutchLiberal May 2012 #26
France's citizens seem to have gotten it right. DevonRex May 2012 #13
Britain is a better morality play. bluestate10 May 2012 #18
The Greeks don't need to raise taxes hack89 May 2012 #27
Greeks spent several centuries avoiding taxes imposed by the Turks. FarCenter May 2012 #29
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