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In reply to the discussion: Obama Drone Attack KILLS Ameicans and Italians. [View all]JonLP24
(29,935 posts)Saudi Arabia and Pakistan may have just renewed a secret nuclear weapons pact
The visit by the chairman of Pakistan's Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee will likely prompt concern in Washington and other major capitals that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have reconfirmed an arrangement whereby Pakistan, if asked, will supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear warheads.
The main meeting on Gen. Rashid Mahmoud's itinerary was with King Salman the topics discussed were reported as "deep relations between the two countries and ... a number of issues of common interest."
Read more: http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/nuclear-nuances-of-saudi-pakistan-meeting#When:21:27:41Z#ixzz3YAIzerA8
Pakistan ISI (their CIA)
Al-Qaeda
The ISI supported Al-Qaeda during the war against the soviet regime, through the Taliban, and it is believed there are still contact between Al-Qaeda and the ISI.[120] An assessment by British Intelligence in 2000 into Al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan showed the ISI were playing an active role in some of them.[121] The leak in 2012 of e-mails from Stratfor revealed that papers captured during the raid in Abbotabad on Osama Bin Laden's compound showed up to 12 ISI officials knew where he was and that Bin Laden had been in regular contact with the ISI.[122]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence#Al-Qaeda
Aside from terrorism issues from the two countries how about human decency
2011 Bahrain uprising
The Bahraini uprising was a series of demonstrations, amounting to a sustained campaign of civil and violent[21][22] resistance in the Persian Gulf country of Bahrain. As part of the revolutionary wave of protests in the Middle East and North Africa following the self-immolation of Mohamed Bouazizi in Tunisia, the Bahraini protests were initially aimed at achieving greater political freedom and equality for the majority Shia population,[23][24] and expanded to a call to end the monarchy of Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa[3] following a deadly night raid on 17 February 2011 against protesters at the Pearl Roundabout in Manama,[25][26] known locally as Bloody Thursday.
Protesters in Manama camped for days at the Pearl Roundabout, which became the centre of the protests. After a month, the government requested troops and police from the Gulf Cooperation Council. On 14 March, 1000 troops from Saudi Arabia and 500 troops from UAE entered Bahrain and crushed the uprising.[27] A day later, the king of Bahrain declared martial law and a three-month state of emergency.[28][29] Pearl Roundabout was cleared of protesters and the iconic statue at its center was destroyed.
(Pakistan)
The appearance of the advertisements was preceded by two "quiet trips" to Pakistan by Bandar bin Sultan, now the Director General of the Saudi Intelligence Agency. Later, the Foreign Minister of Bahrain, Khalid bin Ahmed Al Khalifa and commander of the National Guard made a similar visit. It was only then that the advertisements started appearing.[254] The Pakistani government said they have "nothing to do" with these recruitments, because they are done via "private channels".[250] However, the Iran News Agency reported that in August 2011, Asif Ali Zardari, the President of Pakistan has agreed to send more Pakistani troops to Bahrain during his one-day visit to the country.[260] It was also reported by The Jakarta Post that the Bahraini government tried to hire Malaysian mercenaries.[261]
Al Jazeera English sources estimated that the number of riot police and the National Guard has increased by as high as 50 percent after at least 2,500 Pakistanis were recruited in April and May 2011. According to Nabeel Rajab, the exact size of the increase is not known, however he said it was "much more than 1,500 or 2,000". The size of the National Guard in 2011 was estimated by the US State Department to be 1,200. After requirements its size has increased by about 100 percent.[254]
Foreigner officers were among security forces ordered to attack protesters.[256] The BICI report mentioned that officers of Pakistani origins were responsible for mistreatment of detainees.[262] "He was beaten, tortured and hung. During the first three days, he was stripped of his clothes and sexually assaulted, in addition to being deprived of sleep ... He was routinely beaten and insulted by the prison guards, all of whom were of Pakistani origin", the report mentioned.[11]:449
Bahraini human rights groups and opposition parties have heavily criticized recruiting mercenaries in the Bahraini security forces. Nabeel Rajab said "Theyre told they are going to go to a holy war in Bahrain to kill some non-Muslims or kafir [infidel] or Shias ... And those are maybe responsible for a lot of killing and a lot of systematic torture and human rights violations committed in the past months and years".[250] Michael Stephens, of the Royal United Services Institute linked recruiting mercenaries in the Bahraini security forces to the lack of government confidence in its own citizens. "So they rely on foreign recruits to unquestioningly carry out orders of violently suppressing protests", he said.[254] Bruce Riedel, a leading American expert on South Asia said "when the very serious demonstrations began and it looked like the regime might even be toppled at a certain point, their hiring of mercenaries went up substantially".[250]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahraini_uprising_of_2011#Censorship_and_repression