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'Free Trade' is created to benefit corporations. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #1
Blame it on FDR and his Reciprocal Tariff Act of 1934 and International Trade Organization in 1944. pampango Apr 2015 #19
I blame George Washington. He started everything. merrily Apr 2015 #55
+1 Enthusiast Apr 2015 #59
Well, if we're blaming people long dead for NAFTA, Korea and TPP, why not get to the root of it all? merrily Apr 2015 #67
True. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #68
Historians from both of the two largest parties rank FDR as one of the 10 best merrily Apr 2015 #70
When I was a small child I thought FDR was my grandfather. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #74
That must have been a great feeling! merrily Apr 2015 #75
Can you stop this bullshit about pretending that TPP has something to do with trade? eridani Apr 2015 #86
I was responding to a post about 'free trade' not about the TPP. pampango Apr 2015 #87
I've only run into one person in DU that actually tries to support the TPP with rhett o rick Apr 2015 #2
A third possible reason: denial. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #4
Yep - denial is a powerful thing. polichick Apr 2015 #6
Yes denial. Also fear. To make the changes we need we will need to take some big risks. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #8
Hero worship n2doc Apr 2015 #5
" There are apparently some Democrats that secretly believe in Trickle-Down. " merrily Apr 2015 #61
I have a third: Triana Apr 2015 #3
the reverse of guilt by association treestar Apr 2015 #7
Who are you calling "immature"? And is that necessary to make your point? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #10
oh relax. It's immature to be for/against something because someone else is for/against it. treestar Apr 2015 #11
So you are saying that we shouldn't automatically disagree with Republicons? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #12
How about 'facile,' then , to gauge one's life by what Republicans msanthrope Apr 2015 #17
Are we to automatically disagree with Jon Huntsman ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #39
Give a 100 monkeys typwriters...... rhett o rick Apr 2015 #91
So we SHOULD just be reflexively opposed to any and every thing said or done by a republican? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #95
I am disappointed in this weird attempt at making some kind of point. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #99
I'm disappointed, though not surprised ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #102
Agreed... elzenmahn Apr 2015 #90
funny, I haven seen you sa that to those saying they trust the President cali Apr 2015 #13
No. This person is trying to get me to be against something we know nothing about treestar Apr 2015 #14
It's not fair for you to close your eyes and then say you don't know anything about rhett o rick Apr 2015 #23
Pretty simple concept ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #42
no his comment was puerile and specious Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #15
No. When Republicans are foursquare behind a thing. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #28
You are to kind ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #38
'The first question we ask is what is in it'! YES, exactly and that is what we and most of our Dem sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #18
I agree Andy823 Apr 2015 #22
Your logic doesn't make sense. The President is trying to keep it from us and that doesn't rhett o rick Apr 2015 #24
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #62
That's life. Andy823 Apr 2015 #88
Do you think the Pres is more reliable than all of those that oppose the TPP? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #89
Get real! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #60
I have a few more questions. PADemD Apr 2015 #9
Those are good questions, because they're excellent "wedge" questions Populist_Prole Apr 2015 #16
Here's a third question.. raindaddy Apr 2015 #20
With all respect to Dad ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #21
Sounds remarkably like the argument used by Climate Change deniers. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #25
Except we know what's in Climate Change science and most of us don't deny it. n/t pampango Apr 2015 #26
We also know what's in the TPP close enough to know it's bad for the 99%. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #29
"We may not know the details ..." And therein lies the devil (or the angel?). pampango Apr 2015 #31
We don't have to know what kind of train is coming to know we need to get off rhett o rick Apr 2015 #33
Can't argue with that logic. But don't blow the train up until you know what's on it pampango Apr 2015 #34
At least let's slow the train down so we can look at it's cargo. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #35
Can't argue with that either. We should and will look at the cargo. But I certainly don't want pampango Apr 2015 #41
Add the likes of ALEC and the Koch brothers to those who are pushing it. As for the Democratic base, merrily Apr 2015 #72
Koch Bros? haikugal Apr 2015 #65
Because scientists didn't try to keep their findings about climate change secret. To the contrary. merrily Apr 2015 #69
Not even close ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #36
Actually right on the money. TPP deniers refuse to believe evidence presented. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #37
Neither is blind fear. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #43
Fear isn't always bad. If you get punched in the face every time a "Free" Trade Agreement is signed, rhett o rick Apr 2015 #49
I choose not to live in fear (of the unknown) ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #51
Loyalty is good but not 840high Apr 2015 #94
"Loyalty" to facts and knowledge and using them to inform one's opinion ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #96
Wishing you a good week-end. 840high Apr 2015 #98
Thank you. Enjoy yours as well. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #100
Republican congresspersons.. sendero Apr 2015 #44
It really is that simple. hifiguy Apr 2015 #27
TPP Deniers. They don't want the truth, they can't handle the truth. Blindly following Obama and rhett o rick Apr 2015 #30
Some people see Mitch McConnell as very convincing. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #64
Maybe Mrs. McConnell...................Naw! rhett o rick Apr 2015 #66
I need to answer only one question. Is everything open to scrutiny, transparent and truthful? Cleita Apr 2015 #32
Wouldn't it be swell if we could blindly trust our authoritarian leaders? But that's a rhett o rick Apr 2015 #40
Did you just see Ed Schultz? Cleita Apr 2015 #45
I didn't see it, but wish I had. Good for Sen Sanders and Big Ed Schultz. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #47
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #46
I'm posting from a mobile device and it's very difficult sometimes to get Cleita Apr 2015 #50
Unless I'm mistaken ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #54
Which translates into, just trust me. I never claimed he said it verbatim. Cleita Apr 2015 #56
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #58
K & R AzDar Apr 2015 #48
Lee, Grayson, Warren and Sanders. merrily Apr 2015 #52
The Greeding of America . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #53
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #57
How about "Is Obama for it? If so, why?" DanTex Apr 2015 #63
All I see is a delaying action. haikugal Apr 2015 #71
The last sentence of your post seems hardest for anyone to accept, yet it is so obvious. merrily Apr 2015 #77
Yeah, I know what you mean. haikugal Apr 2015 #82
To play the devil's advocate for a minute... why do you suppose Senator Wyden supports it? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #73
Lee, Grayson, Sanders, Brown, Warren. merrily Apr 2015 #76
Which is not an answer to my question. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #78
You were making your point; I was making mine. merrily Apr 2015 #79
Icy. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #80
No, factual. Imaginative, on your part, though. merrily Apr 2015 #81
No, just a stupid language play on "I see" Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #85
Bit more concerned about the private DirkGently Apr 2015 #84
K&R Your dad is right on. nt raouldukelives Apr 2015 #92
k/r for Dad 840high Apr 2015 #93
Actually, it may sound a little foolish to oppose something just because Republicans are for it, world wide wally Apr 2015 #97
Would you and your Dad rather have the Republicans oversee a trade deal? tridim Apr 2015 #101
This is what the USTR says ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #103
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