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floriduck

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78. There is a wide spectrum of ideology that
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 12:46 PM
Apr 2015

exists to the left of the far right radicals. I'm afraid Mr. Obama (whom I voted and contributed to twice) is at the leading edge of the right side of that remaining space. That is why it is a general consensus that this country is a right of center country. Unfortunately, the neocons have put together a powerful and effective machine in TV, radio, big business, evangelical Christians and the Supreme Court that influences the less intelligent/ knowledgeable to believe what they hear.

Even though the Dems have won the latest presidential elections, the local races have been lost, in part due to what they see and hear from the conservative machine. As in "all politics are local." We'll never know for sure how we would feel had a more leftist President been in office for the last 6 years. But I doubt it would have been much worst and possibly much better overall.

I will never forgive President Obama for three main things:
1. Not encouraging justice for the prior administration for the torturing of innocent people. That alone opens the door for future presidents to step beyond what was done previously, and,

2. Pursuing Edward Snowden for criminal acts, while allowing a former Army general to walk for sharing classified information to his previous sexual partner. Petreus's actions were just as damning as Snowden's. However, Edward Snowden's information brought about some improvements to the NSA. Petreus did absolutely no good to anyone.

3. Developing another mistake of a trade policy in the TTP.

These failures to act responsibly cause me to doubt Mr. Obama's decision making.

Take it somewhere else. TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #1
They left out that he had his DoJ help local police brutalize OWS protestors. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #100
No, with the 2016 campaign already heating up this is exactly the place where this totodeinhere Apr 2015 #102
Agreed... elzenmahn Apr 2015 #121
Because President Obama is going to be on the ballot in 2016? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #131
His twin will be on the ballot. 840high Apr 2015 #135
President Obama is an only child (to my knowledge) ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #138
President Obama has a sister who lives in Hawaii! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #155
A discussion is a civil matter amongst civil folks ... NotHardly Apr 2015 #126
Maybe you should Jakes Progress Apr 2015 #128
No. In fact i'll give it a K/R 840high Apr 2015 #134
take the facts somewhere else? Skittles Apr 2015 #150
Why should he take it somewhere else? akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #154
"real Democrats" BainsBane Apr 2015 #158
Jury results: Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #156
No, and I will recommend too Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #163
You take it somewhere else. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #169
^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX Apr 2015 #176
:D Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #178
LOL, loved your informed and detailed post. You are a genius! nt Logical Apr 2015 #175
+1 L0oniX Apr 2015 #181
Although I think this would be out of place any other time marym625 Apr 2015 #2
I missed this, can you show what remark please? RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #24
sure marym625 Apr 2015 #27
Ty! RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #29
Interesting Liberalynn Apr 2015 #49
Chuck Schumer came out against TPP or FT? Both? I missed that. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #63
The link: Liberalynn Apr 2015 #76
Progressive is the term used in the late 19th century and early JDPriestly Apr 2015 #73
Thank You! Liberalynn Apr 2015 #82
I use both terms. Sometimes in the same sentence. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #85
And for those of us who aren't liberals, too. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #174
It's also an umbrella term for those of us who aren't liberals. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #172
And it was a fantastic movement. I wonder what would have happened if Theo Roosevelt had bucked the Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2015 #101
I love being called a liberal marym625 Apr 2015 #109
Well Said! 2banon Apr 2015 #152
Really. SusanCalvin Apr 2015 #140
The fact it's secret is just too telling marym625 Apr 2015 #141
And the fact that Republicans support it dflprincess Apr 2015 #149
I have no doubt that he does see it too. SusanCalvin Apr 2015 #161
exactly marym625 Apr 2015 #167
I would like to see a list of what President Obama has done you find exceptable, hope AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #3
I'd comment, accept I'd be ridiculed. n/t meaculpa2011 Apr 2015 #5
I see what you did there. Scuba Apr 2015 #11
Aren't you the clever one! RiverLover Apr 2015 #20
Acceptional reply Flo Mingo Apr 2015 #35
Again, Please Take This Comment As One That I ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #77
(the poster was teasing the person they replied to) cyberswede Apr 2015 #83
Ok, Got It... ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #94
I think normally people overlook spelling errors, but it was intended as a critique of the OP... cascadiance Apr 2015 #122
Sorry, I Missed The Pun... ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #97
Word. n/t Alkene Apr 2015 #127
Pff. Don't hold your breath. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #6
I think he has done some wonderful things marym625 Apr 2015 #19
marym625... ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #62
Thom Hartmann- clip COMMERCIAL CLUB OF CHICAGO- Obama & RAHM EMANUEL Rockyj Apr 2015 #104
No, but seems very many want to put us under a rock marym625 Apr 2015 #110
+1 Liberalynn Apr 2015 #70
When Prosense did that treestar Apr 2015 #48
I think it's only human nature to dwell on the things you disagree with rather than the totodeinhere Apr 2015 #103
Actually, dwelling on what is wrong is the only way to make things better. bvar22 Apr 2015 #114
I Will Preface This Comment By First Saying... ChiciB1 Apr 2015 #69
All that was in the past... sendero Apr 2015 #4
And YET - he won BOTH of his elections with OVER 51% of the vote. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #7
I feel like I'm supposed to apologize JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #17
This is not about that marym625 Apr 2015 #21
I disagree with many points in the OP - here's one JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #23
I disagree with you marym625 Apr 2015 #26
Actually, President Obama STRENGTHENED Dodd-Frank. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #132
Not when he signed the budget at the end of 2014. marym625 Apr 2015 #136
Hope O'Malley gets it Caretha Apr 2015 #142
No apology necessary. You did the correct thing and kept another Republican out of the BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #22
For the SCOTUS alone . . . JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #25
Oh yes! And you've helped make AG Loretta Lynch a reality! Forgot about that. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #30
SCOTUS, yes. SusanCalvin Apr 2015 #162
In 2008, a lot of us were willing to take a chance on him. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #34
Not a " high Bar..? busterbrown Apr 2015 #41
I didn't run for office. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #45
Good...So keep sitting on your hands. busterbrown Apr 2015 #50
No, that was how I accepted I bore some blame. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #65
Your over thinking a bit. busterbrown Apr 2015 #130
Humanity doesn't even have the digging technology to get under that bar TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #118
Politics is not the good guys vs. the bad guys. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #84
Yep. Thespian2 Apr 2015 #143
don't forget just how bad voting for his opponent in either of those elections rurallib Apr 2015 #125
Out of the 36% or so of eligible American voters who bothered to vote? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #33
No, that "36%" was 39.9% in 2010 and the I believe the 18% was only in California in 2014. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #38
ok, so 51% of 39.9% is 20.3% or so, and 51% of 57.7% is 29.4% Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #46
Those who don't vote, don't count. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #58
Thank you for succinctly, in your header, stating exactly the reason Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #60
Taking my words out of context is beneath an intelligent person like you, Erich. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #72
And Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #98
YES!!! busterbrown Apr 2015 #42
A majority means intelligence? former9thward Apr 2015 #89
A majority means democracy. But you knew that. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #148
Did you vote for him because of the stuff listed in the OP? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #160
I'm guessing you won't be voting for him next time around then? underahedgerow Apr 2015 #8
A lot of his voters from 2008 won't be voting for ANY Dem next time around, due in large part Doctor_J Apr 2015 #16
Dude, rainbows could come shooting out of Obama's behind and that won't change the minds of underahedgerow Apr 2015 #37
That'll teach Obama a lesson!! JoePhilly Apr 2015 #107
You would think it would teach the party movers & shakers a lesson Doctor_J Apr 2015 #111
Teach them what ... to force Warren to run? JoePhilly Apr 2015 #113
no, to adopt an agenda different from the one in the op Doctor_J Apr 2015 #120
Bingo! Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. 2banon Apr 2015 #153
I'm surprised at how people can dismiss this list so easily el_bryanto Apr 2015 #9
It's simply because sharp_stick Apr 2015 #12
Ah - so you are saying that Obama hasn't been too cozy with Wall Street? el_bryanto Apr 2015 #14
No sharp_stick Apr 2015 #18
+1 n/t JTFrog Apr 2015 #31
+1. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2015 #44
+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #53
So which parts do you feel 'bullish' about? daleanime Apr 2015 #68
I agree. Xyzse Apr 2015 #15
you are barking up the wrong tree, NM_Birder Apr 2015 #10
Yea just the Tea Party.. busterbrown Apr 2015 #43
There's absolutely nothing in your list that's not spot-on. Sure feels like betrayal to me. Scuba Apr 2015 #13
What does #22 refer to? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #36
He also moved to open up the Atlantic to oil drilling. Broward Apr 2015 #28
Thank you. SamKnause Apr 2015 #96
In his 7th year, not one day free of US war. morningfog Apr 2015 #32
And this was written in 2012.. busterbrown Apr 2015 #40
then vote Republican next time SCantiGOP Apr 2015 #39
If it got the People to fight back, as they did W, yes, absolutely Demeter Apr 2015 #55
is that the bar now, for progress? Skittles Apr 2015 #151
Yeah ..We'll all do that just to piss you off. L0oniX Apr 2015 #171
Go eat a fucking donut. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #179
Wow 23 things treestar Apr 2015 #47
You take it personally? Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #51
Same goes for Obama feigning emotional injury. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #112
I could add to the list, but what would be the point? Demeter Apr 2015 #52
gawd Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #54
I am very interested in your additions !!! SamKnause Apr 2015 #56
Thank you for the affirmation, Sam Demeter Apr 2015 #57
Have a safe and wonderful weekend. SamKnause Apr 2015 #59
A lot of half-truths and hyperbole emulatorloo Apr 2015 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2015 #71
Sure why not, Mr or Ms Corruption Inc. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #81
Which party controlled the Senate in 2005? Which party holds it today? TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #117
K & R GoneFishin Apr 2015 #64
IMO, you're a bit RW harsh with the 23 personally offended list. But there is some degree of Truth, Sunlei Apr 2015 #66
The Truth Hurts Tace Apr 2015 #67
This is a DUzy LordGlenconner Apr 2015 #74
Is he Third Way Yet. Phlem Apr 2015 #75
There is a wide spectrum of ideology that floriduck Apr 2015 #78
My hat is off to you, Mr Sam Knause. truedelphi Apr 2015 #79
where is the story where he said he takes the opposition personally? grasswire Apr 2015 #80
Good question. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #86
I did not misinterpret anything. SamKnause Apr 2015 #91
The link: SamKnause Apr 2015 #87
Ok thanks for providing the link. Appreciate it. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #93
You are most welcome. SamKnause Apr 2015 #95
Same to you SamKnause emulatorloo Apr 2015 #99
Here's some things left off the list LordGlenconner Apr 2015 #88
"[I]f American workers are being denied their right to organize when I'm in the White House, I will midnight Apr 2015 #90
Thank you. SamKnause Apr 2015 #92
You left out allowing cwydro Apr 2015 #105
Thank you. SamKnause Apr 2015 #108
True dat. cwydro Apr 2015 #166
The bastard made it rain on my birthday !!!!! JoePhilly Apr 2015 #106
You ought to rename this thread "The Emoprog's Twenty-Three Theses" Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #115
http://www.diagonale.at/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/07-Illustration-von-Samuel-Goodrich-The-Wooden-Ho blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #116
Liberals expected the pendulum to come back our way and it simply didn't. EEO Apr 2015 #119
Alfred McCoy explained Secret Government is why the pendulum won't swing back. Octafish Apr 2015 #124
+1 ^^^. . .n/t annabanana Apr 2015 #170
truth. n/t PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #164
I also take it personally. Octafish Apr 2015 #123
I wish I could disagree. 99Forever Apr 2015 #129
+100 I also decided 840high Apr 2015 #137
# 24 swilton Apr 2015 #133
Thank you for the addition. SamKnause Apr 2015 #139
This the best and most complete list of Obama's "populist" hypocrisy I have ever seen published. DrBulldog Apr 2015 #144
K & R AzDar Apr 2015 #145
Then there is this list! rgbecker Apr 2015 #146
Nearly every point is false or extremely oversimplified bhikkhu Apr 2015 #147
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #157
I'm sure grateful that doesn't say McCain and/or Romney after Mr. President, though. C Moon Apr 2015 #159
I'm not so sure about that, for this reason: Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #165
He's a great ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #168
If this list pisses off people then you did the right thing. L0oniX Apr 2015 #173
It saddens me that the list is correct. Vinca Apr 2015 #177
Here it is toward the end of his tenure and you come up with 23 things that... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #180
LMAO L0oniX Apr 2015 #182
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