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jeff47

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62. Again, you are free to propose some other way.

Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:24 PM

Apr 2015

There are not enough scientists at the FDA to test every new drug, and there is not enough space or budget at public universities to test every new drug. And there's no way to convince Congress to swap the FDA's and DoD's budgets.

So either the drug companies pay the many billions per year for testing within a regulatory framework, or there are no new drugs.

That last option is fine if you just have a fever, but there's a lot of diseases that would benefit from new drugs. Plus we can retire some old ones that are not as effective or have more side effects.

Yes, there are examples of ones where "the attorneys sort it out". There's many more where attorneys do not get involved.

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Now that you mention it, it might have been Michelle Obama. Orrex Apr 2015 #71

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You clearly have no idea how CDER works. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #34

Yep, and we are the Guinea Pigs bahrbearian Apr 2015 #38

When is (sic) the last time the FDA has (sic) tested any Supplement? jeff47 Apr 2015 #37

So the Patent and Trademark Office, Tests them ? bahrbearian Apr 2015 #39

Nope. gcomeau Apr 2015 #48

Nope. They issue patents. jeff47 Apr 2015 #51

So we are the Guinea Pigs bahrbearian Apr 2015 #53

No, they were used far earlier. jeff47 Apr 2015 #56

So we just trust corporations to tell the FDA they are OK bahrbearian Apr 2015 #58

Again, you are free to propose some other way. jeff47 Apr 2015 #62

LOL, not a deep thinker I assume. Then why does the FDA reject many drugs???? Wow, clueless. nt Logical Apr 2015 #78

How many Drugs have been recalled bahrbearian Apr 2015 #81

LOL, you don't want to answer your claim....... Logical Apr 2015 #82

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