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In reply to the discussion: Obama: Elizabeth Warren is "dishonest" [View all]morningfog
(18,115 posts)17. He didn't have to use Warren's name. He referenced her email.
And, yes, he said what Warren has said and done is dishonest.
No he didn't say she is a dishonest person, but did say she is being dishonest. Like saying someone is not a racist, but doing something racist. It is semantics.
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A bunch of regular citizens should go over and say, OK, we are here to read it.
Maineman
Apr 2015
#155
That is very kind of you. I am not a great thinker, but I always give my honest opinion.
CaliforniaPeggy
Apr 2015
#182
Obama admin.has delayed/ignored FOIA requests more than any previous administration.
Divernan
Apr 2015
#74
Silly Manny! I have links to the TPP documents for all to see ...every fine detail of it...
L0oniX
Apr 2015
#314
Remember how she was being brought into the establishment to help it message???
HereSince1628
Apr 2015
#4
As long as she messaged what Jamie and Lloyd wanted, it would have been fine
MannyGoldstein
Apr 2015
#7
Obama: "ad hominem attacks and misinformation that stirs up the base. . . I'm going to be pushing...
morningfog
Apr 2015
#6
It's the only things that explains his increasing fear/ferocity. Go Bernie and Elizabeth.
libdem4life
Apr 2015
#194
"... their entire wish list ...". Good summation. He seems especially desperate and motivated.
GoneFishin
Apr 2015
#248
Ordinarily, I wouldn't touch one of these OPs with a barge pole, but your
Surya Gayatri
Apr 2015
#152
Warren is the one saying that the TPP is a secret and no one can see it. Everyone can see that is
Number23
Apr 2015
#198
The operative words here are "secret" that no one can see. That's not what's happening and never has
Number23
Apr 2015
#209
I don't know what you're talking about. That now makes two of us. And I'm bored with you and your
Number23
Apr 2015
#216
It's not a secret if people, members of Congress are still people, can see it anytime
Number23
Apr 2015
#220
57 posts from people arguing that it is secret, me saying it isn't, and I'M the one you decide to
Number23
Apr 2015
#233
I am so loving that you guys have nothing better to do than engage in this idiotic drivel
Number23
Apr 2015
#241
averse to is a bunch of ad hominem attacks and misinformation that stirs up the base
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#16
So you say he wasn't calling her dishonest, and then you follow with how I should
morningfog
Apr 2015
#26
all i have been reading is this is secret. it is not secret. that is the point. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#43
It is secret from you. Not congresscritters. Warren never claimed otherwise, unless I missed it.
morningfog
Apr 2015
#46
then why is grayson's ass not arrested, cause i listened to him tell about two pieces.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#69
Grayson did NOT discuss the text of the TPP that is being hidden from the American
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#309
check out my link to democracy now. grayson giving out info. you say secret. i see it isnt
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#82
so, they can tell us about it, regardless of you and manny telling me otherwise. you want text of
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#90
Is that accurate? I thought members of Congress were prohibited from publically discussing it
LondonReign2
Apr 2015
#319
and why not just read it, tell us, instead of saying secret and putting own agenda on it.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#28
we are told secret, it isnt. we are told congress cant say anything, they can.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#102
this it is not secret. do you realize how many different things have been said in this subthread?
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#326
If it's not on the White House website, and our representatives can't even take notes-
eridani
Apr 2015
#332
There is a distinction, but he is still referring to Warren and what she is doing.
morningfog
Apr 2015
#42
Quit worrying so much about Warren. She is not running. So you never have to see the disaster....
Logical
Apr 2015
#120
i am all for killing the deal. but this thread is bullshit. telling me congress people cant say
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#108
Oh Boy! An honest person can't, by definition, utter dishonest criticism. He said her criticism
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#172
I really, really, really doubt the union and liberal groups' leaders, much less their attorneys
hedda_foil
Apr 2015
#15
Dishonest is promising a public insurance option and then pretending you didn't
nationalize the fed
Apr 2015
#23
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/images-4/obama-not-happy.jpg
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2015
#32
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/051513obama-460x306.jpg
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2015
#33
Yeah, fuck him. So what if 12 million americans have health care now, so what if
NoJusticeNoPeace
Apr 2015
#47
Some have NEVER supported him but pretend to and then attack him on this, not you
NoJusticeNoPeace
Apr 2015
#55
Agree, my problem is if someone never supports X, or is criticizing them on everything, then when
NoJusticeNoPeace
Apr 2015
#308
And so starts the circular firing squad. No wonder we can't change this nation for the better.
Cleita
Apr 2015
#53
I've come to a similar conclusion -- she's playing to her fundraising list. And that's transparent.
Hoyt
Apr 2015
#59
K & R !!! - Yeah... Right... It's Elizabeth Warren Who's Dishonest... And Bernie Sanders...
WillyT
Apr 2015
#60
So he thinks the base are like sheep who cannot think for themselves, easily 'riled up' by Warren?
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#70
Um...no to your no. I answered your question, and I did so accurately.
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2015
#227
All right so our own representatives are supposedly dishonest. So we all need to ask him the
jwirr
Apr 2015
#95
Liz is telling the truth and it hurts Obama...she ain't playing the "right" way...Thanks, Elizabeth.
drynberg
Apr 2015
#121
Silly me, I thought you meant Manny for a blatantly bullshit thread title and OP.
KittyWampus
Apr 2015
#126
Obama's decided to spend a little of his political capital on this issue I see! nt
stillwaiting
Apr 2015
#128
I wasn't really trying to be a jerk, and no I didn't read all the posts in this thread. thanks
still_one
Apr 2015
#293
I'm Ready For Oligarchy - Are You? - Support Obama On TPP - Elect HRC To Continue The Charade
cantbeserious
Apr 2015
#214
Has he ever called Republicans Dishonest? Are we seeing the real Obama now, or is he being
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#237
I don't think I can remember him calling them out for their lies. I always wanted him to.
GoneFishin
Apr 2015
#253
Remember The Only Adult in the Room's "please like me" meeting with Republicans?
SMC22307
Apr 2015
#238
I will trust Elizabeth Warren's opinion on this over the likes of Mich Mcconnell.
CentralMass
Apr 2015
#289
That's the end of Obama's "legacy". He can go screw himself for all I care, at this point. (nt)
w4rma
Apr 2015
#291