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Egalitarian Thug

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57. Or, how about fixing the system? How about reversing the criminalization of merely

Mon May 7, 2012, 04:08 PM

May 2012

living? How about reserving incarceration for the very few cases where it is the only option?

I was, in my reply, pointing out what is, not proposing anything. I will never accept merely throwing up my hands and giving up, as you imply.

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Have you ever competed against prison labor wages on your own job? I have [View all] NNN0LHI May 2012 OP

How are these people supposed to transition back to society TBMASE May 2012 #1

Did your BIL have a good paying job before he went to prison? NNN0LHI May 2012 #2

yes, he did TBMASE May 2012 #5

That would be a reasonable argument if we had a reasonable number of people in prison.. Fumesucker May 2012 #3

What does the rate of incarceration have to do with anything TBMASE May 2012 #4

They laws are written the way they are because people are profiting from them they way they are. Fumesucker May 2012 #10

Our prisons aren't overcrowded with pot smokers TBMASE May 2012 #13

Then pray tell why does the US have an incarceration rate seven times that of Canada? Fumesucker May 2012 #20

It's not because of Marijuana posession TBMASE May 2012 #23

You didn't answer the question.. Fumesucker May 2012 #26

Depends on the crime, doesn't it? TBMASE May 2012 #32

You refuse to answer the question.. Fumesucker May 2012 #36

yeah, I did a paper on the legalization of weed back in college TBMASE May 2012 #42

You're very capable of doing this research on your own? EOTE May 2012 #71

you want to post some links to those statistics? canuckledragger May 2012 #30

hmm... chervilant May 2012 #70

You are laboring under a false premise. America abandoned even the pretense of Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #17

well then, let's stop all counciling and education programs too TBMASE May 2012 #27

Or, how about fixing the system? How about reversing the criminalization of merely Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #57

Have you been sent to prison for living? TBMASE May 2012 #60

No, but the fact that I, and you, and every American breaks the law every day Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #74

Maybe in your mind TBMASE May 2012 #75

Maybe not in your mind, but in real life, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #76

Many prisons used to be self-supporting Th1onein May 2012 #54

The saving on wages is not going to the taxpayers Marrah_G May 2012 #66

Slave labor Angry Dragon May 2012 #6

They have a CHOICE to work or not TBMASE May 2012 #7

When you have a private company running the prison Angry Dragon May 2012 #8

Why? TBMASE May 2012 #9

Because the prisoners are not free to take other jobs, not free to leave.. Fumesucker May 2012 #11

Sounds like you are 'free to leave' by choosing not to work. randome May 2012 #12

You are punished for not working, that's not freedom.. Fumesucker May 2012 #19

No, you don't get privileges that are to be earned TBMASE May 2012 #22

You can call it what you want.. Fumesucker May 2012 #24

Punished by doing the time you were sentenced to TBMASE May 2012 #34

You just blasted a hole in your own argument that it is not slave labor Th1onein May 2012 #55

He's being forced to be in jail, not to work TBMASE May 2012 #56

Nope, wrong again. Th1onein May 2012 #59

They are free to take other jobs in the prison or not work at all TBMASE May 2012 #14

From the article NNN0LHI May 2012 #16

Thank you. +1. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #18

Guess what? If you refuse to take classes or do counciling TBMASE May 2012 #21

That is serving more time. They just word it differently. Marrah_G May 2012 #68

Perhaps you could tell me who benefits the most Angry Dragon May 2012 #15

Funny how some of the same folks bemoaning illegal immigrants' Tsiyu May 2012 #28

Is your last line referring to me?? Angry Dragon May 2012 #45

Not at all Tsiyu May 2012 #47

Okay ....... was just making sure Angry Dragon May 2012 #48

Well, the taxpayers benefit from it TBMASE May 2012 #29

The taxpayers do not benefit from incarcerating more people than necessary.. Fumesucker May 2012 #31

They don't? Which prisoners do you want on the street TBMASE May 2012 #35

Evidently you think Americans are seven times as criminal as Canadians.. Fumesucker May 2012 #37

a Convicted Murderer? TBMASE May 2012 #38

When you answer my question then I will consider answering yours.. Fumesucker May 2012 #39

whatever, I answered your question TBMASE May 2012 #40

I too have a relative that has done time.. Fumesucker May 2012 #43

County Jail is a whole different world from prison TBMASE May 2012 #52

You have a link to prove your claim that Americans are seven times as criminal as Canadians? Fumesucker May 2012 #53

Bullshit lunatica May 2012 #65

yes, because convicted murderers TBMASE May 2012 #69

Stockholm Syndrome. n/t eShirl May 2012 #77

You're being satirical, right? Zalatix May 2012 #46

It's not really a choice Marrah_G May 2012 #67

The fastest growing segment in the employment agency world is PRISON labor lib2DaBone May 2012 #25

You think I was competing against prison labor on my job in the 1980's because of President Obama? NNN0LHI May 2012 #33

were you in a for profit prison? magical thyme May 2012 #62

Are you sure you are replying to the right person here? NNN0LHI May 2012 #63

aaack...I read your post backwards magical thyme May 2012 #72

Don't worry about it NNN0LHI May 2012 #73

Kicked and recommended. For profit prisons should be illegal, that kind of system is Uncle Joe May 2012 #41

I did a fair stretch in Federal prison in the late '80's and early '90's NBachers May 2012 #44

What happens if some day your current job on the outside is contracted out for prison labor to do? NNN0LHI May 2012 #49

Well, like I said, I'll support anyone who campaigns against prison labor taking away outside jobs NBachers May 2012 #58

Sort of... TedBronson May 2012 #50

Check out PACUR, owned by US Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI). They use a lot of prison labor. Scuba May 2012 #51

that pisses me off. legislators profiting off prison labor. i hate the cesspool this country is HiPointDem May 2012 #61

Yeah, this particularly rankles me. There are honest citizens who need those jobs. Scuba May 2012 #64