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In reply to the discussion: Mr. President, I take it personally: [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)123. I also take it personally.
XXX. Money still trumps peace.
Neocons and Liberals Together, Again
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security...
Tom Barry, last updated: February 02, 2005
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security strategy with a new public letter stating that the "U.S. military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume." Rather than reining in the imperial scope of U.S. national security strategy as set forth by the first Bush administration, PNAC and the letter's signatories call for increasing the size of America's global fighting machine.
SNIP...
Liberal Hawks Fly with the Neocons
The recent PNAC letter to Congress was not the first time that PNAC or its associated front groups, such as the Coalition for the Liberation of Iraq, have included hawkish Democrats.
Two PNAC letters in March 2003 played to those Democrats who believed that the invasion was justified at least as much by humanitarian concerns as it was by the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction. PNAC and the neocon camp had managed to translate their military agenda of preemptive and preventive strikes into national security policy. With the invasion underway, they sought to preempt those hardliners and military officials who opted for a quick exit strategy in Iraq. In their March 19th letter, PNAC stated that Washington should plan to stay in Iraq for the long haul: "Everyone-those who have joined the coalition, those who have stood aside, those who opposed military action, and, most of all, the Iraqi people and their neighbors-must understand that we are committed to the rebuilding of Iraq and will provide the necessary resources and will remain for as long as it takes."
Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings. A second post-Iraq war letter by PNAC on March 28 called for broader international support for reconstruction, including the involvement of NATO, and brought together the same Democrats with the prominent addition of another Brookings' foreign policy scholar, Michael O'Hanlon.
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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Neocons_and_Liberals_Together_Again
One name to remember is Victoria Nuland, our woman in Ukraine, who is married to PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan
Robert Kagan's brother is Frederick Kagan. Frederick Kagan's spouse is Kimberly Kagan.
Brilliant people, big ideas, and a lot of PNAC, which spells out the neocon/neolib approach to international relations means more wars without end for profits without cease, among other things detrimental to peace, justice, and democracy.
Neocons and Liberals Together, Again
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security...
Tom Barry, last updated: February 02, 2005
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security strategy with a new public letter stating that the "U.S. military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume." Rather than reining in the imperial scope of U.S. national security strategy as set forth by the first Bush administration, PNAC and the letter's signatories call for increasing the size of America's global fighting machine.
SNIP...
Liberal Hawks Fly with the Neocons
The recent PNAC letter to Congress was not the first time that PNAC or its associated front groups, such as the Coalition for the Liberation of Iraq, have included hawkish Democrats.
Two PNAC letters in March 2003 played to those Democrats who believed that the invasion was justified at least as much by humanitarian concerns as it was by the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction. PNAC and the neocon camp had managed to translate their military agenda of preemptive and preventive strikes into national security policy. With the invasion underway, they sought to preempt those hardliners and military officials who opted for a quick exit strategy in Iraq. In their March 19th letter, PNAC stated that Washington should plan to stay in Iraq for the long haul: "Everyone-those who have joined the coalition, those who have stood aside, those who opposed military action, and, most of all, the Iraqi people and their neighbors-must understand that we are committed to the rebuilding of Iraq and will provide the necessary resources and will remain for as long as it takes."
Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings. A second post-Iraq war letter by PNAC on March 28 called for broader international support for reconstruction, including the involvement of NATO, and brought together the same Democrats with the prominent addition of another Brookings' foreign policy scholar, Michael O'Hanlon.
CONTINUED...
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Neocons_and_Liberals_Together_Again
One name to remember is Victoria Nuland, our woman in Ukraine, who is married to PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan
Robert Kagan's brother is Frederick Kagan. Frederick Kagan's spouse is Kimberly Kagan.
Brilliant people, big ideas, and a lot of PNAC, which spells out the neocon/neolib approach to international relations means more wars without end for profits without cease, among other things detrimental to peace, justice, and democracy.
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They left out that he had his DoJ help local police brutalize OWS protestors. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#100
No, with the 2016 campaign already heating up this is exactly the place where this
totodeinhere
Apr 2015
#102
And it was a fantastic movement. I wonder what would have happened if Theo Roosevelt had bucked the
Dark n Stormy Knight
Apr 2015
#101
I would like to see a list of what President Obama has done you find exceptable, hope
AuntPatsy
Apr 2015
#3
I think normally people overlook spelling errors, but it was intended as a critique of the OP...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#122
I think it's only human nature to dwell on the things you disagree with rather than the
totodeinhere
Apr 2015
#103
No apology necessary. You did the correct thing and kept another Republican out of the
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#22
Oh yes! And you've helped make AG Loretta Lynch a reality! Forgot about that.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#30
don't forget just how bad voting for his opponent in either of those elections
rurallib
Apr 2015
#125
Out of the 36% or so of eligible American voters who bothered to vote?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Apr 2015
#33
No, that "36%" was 39.9% in 2010 and the I believe the 18% was only in California in 2014.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#38
Thank you for succinctly, in your header, stating exactly the reason
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Apr 2015
#60
Taking my words out of context is beneath an intelligent person like you, Erich.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#72
A lot of his voters from 2008 won't be voting for ANY Dem next time around, due in large part
Doctor_J
Apr 2015
#16
Dude, rainbows could come shooting out of Obama's behind and that won't change the minds of
underahedgerow
Apr 2015
#37
There's absolutely nothing in your list that's not spot-on. Sure feels like betrayal to me.
Scuba
Apr 2015
#13
IMO, you're a bit RW harsh with the 23 personally offended list. But there is some degree of Truth,
Sunlei
Apr 2015
#66
"[I]f American workers are being denied their right to organize when I'm in the White House, I will
midnight
Apr 2015
#90
http://www.diagonale.at/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/07-Illustration-von-Samuel-Goodrich-The-Wooden-Ho
blkmusclmachine
Apr 2015
#116
Alfred McCoy explained Secret Government is why the pendulum won't swing back.
Octafish
Apr 2015
#124
This the best and most complete list of Obama's "populist" hypocrisy I have ever seen published.
DrBulldog
Apr 2015
#144
I'm sure grateful that doesn't say McCain and/or Romney after Mr. President, though.
C Moon
Apr 2015
#159
Here it is toward the end of his tenure and you come up with 23 things that...
TreasonousBastard
Apr 2015
#180