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18. So good, but if no exact wording yet, then TPA is a terrible idea, and maybe that makes

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Fri Apr 24, 2015, 07:27 PM

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I love Elizabeth Warren BUT [View all] medeak Apr 2015 OP

Hillary is against it? I missed that. arcane1 Apr 2015 #1

She has not come out against it. morningfog Apr 2015 #64

Hillary has gone on record many times in support of TPP Joe Turner Apr 2015 #87

... Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #2

from article WARREN WING OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #4

Good point. I think this kind of talk is for people who follow politics closely Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #8

it's just an internet thing. JI7 Apr 2015 #21

How can it be good for the environment, based on EVERYTHING we have seen and read one of the NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #3

The idea that it allows companies to ignore environmental law is ridiculous. It forces the okaawhatever Apr 2015 #6

Wait, what? Where is that , can you link to that wording? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #7

There is no exact wording yet but here is the USTR website stating that was one of their okaawhatever Apr 2015 #16

So good, but if no exact wording yet, then TPA is a terrible idea, and maybe that makes NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #18

And that WILL be strictly enforced!!!111!! merrily Apr 2015 #63

One question Andy823 Apr 2015 #10

IDK , poster here said it NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #11

"EVERYTHING we have seen and read" usually means a load of baloney ucrdem Apr 2015 #43

Obama is supporting it for god sake. How if incomplete? Nt Logical Apr 2015 #54

Absolutely. I don't know if it's terrific, but I know it could be. There are two ways to make US okaawhatever Apr 2015 #5

Good info. Hoyt Apr 2015 #33

just tell us what those standards are nt G_j Apr 2015 #46

"leveling the playing field" Joe Turner Apr 2015 #85

Sorry, but no: your anecdotal 'evidence' means nothing. Maedhros Apr 2015 #9

Is your anecdotal evidence better? procon Apr 2015 #28

+ 10,000 nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #47

correct, it is simple. G_j Apr 2015 #48

The evidence isn't anecdotal - it's leaked pages from the actual draft legislation. Maedhros Apr 2015 #65

Would this "evidence" be the same outdated drafts that everyone procon Apr 2015 #78

Got a link to Hillary Clinton saying she opposes it? 99Forever Apr 2015 #12

I don't doubt a link to something equivocal exists somewhere. merrily Apr 2015 #82

Does this sound like someone who opposes TPP? Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #83

I'm sure you love her after calling her a liar and a cheap politician. n/t Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #13

Obama's read it, Warren's read it, Sander's read it, DUers have not, Your son (cough cough) WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #14

That's how I see it too. JEB Apr 2015 #40

Which is why we can't see it.... daleanime Apr 2015 #15

Yeah, it's just like shaking the present before Christmas Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #66

Hillary hasn't said either way. I do think Warren is Grandstanding. Cha Apr 2015 #17

bullshit cali Apr 2015 #19

but her child worked 4 years on this Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #22

And the question is: posturing for what? arcane1 Apr 2015 #26

It's true Depaysement Apr 2015 #37

"The TPP enshrines capitalization as a principle of jurisprudence" Auggie Apr 2015 #20

Hillary isn't against it Oilwellian Apr 2015 #23

but the OP said that Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #24

White House Says Enviros Love This Trade Pact, But Enviros Say Otherwise muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #25

You don't build membership by supporting Obama, the NRA learned that lesson too. Hoyt Apr 2015 #35

boy, did you just discredit yourself cali Apr 2015 #72

But on this, they are using the same tactics. Hoyt Apr 2015 #74

Odious, but true. joshcryer Apr 2015 #79

It's complete nonsense. As cali said, the organisations are totally different muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #90

That's not what I think at all. joshcryer Apr 2015 #91

The poster said they're doing it to build their membership muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #92

"build fear among potential members" joshcryer Apr 2015 #93

The title you replied 'true' to: "You don't build membership by supporting Obama, the NRA learned" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #94

Because the final version has not been presented I would hope the decision to back it or not Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #27

I want to believe it but if it's so great you'd think they'd want to pat themselves on the back tularetom Apr 2015 #29

Well, maybe HE will share a copy of the draft on that. HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #30

As soon as it's ready. randome Apr 2015 #31

I don't understand why you were attacked, procon Apr 2015 #32

this pettiness i am seeing with the whole "secret" crap, i am waiting until it comes out and will seabeyond Apr 2015 #34

If it's so great why can't we all read it Depaysement Apr 2015 #36

we will. when it is done. like always. then we argue it. then it is voted on. again. like always seabeyond Apr 2015 #38

So then why does it have to be fast-tracked before it's done? nt Depaysement Apr 2015 #41

So Congress can't wreck it. ucrdem Apr 2015 #42

You've already posted this at least once Depaysement Apr 2015 #44

Yes, also a couple of threads back in January, ucrdem Apr 2015 #45

THANK YOU ucrdem Apr 2015 #39

lol, i'm not sure you know what explaining means. Nt Logical Apr 2015 #55

so a Bill that all of the republicans including Paul Ryan and Obama are for is great for us? Doctor_J Apr 2015 #49

Who knew that multi-national corporations and Republicans are now pro-worker and pro-environment? neverforget Apr 2015 #50

Hmmm... Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #51

I think the issue is people want to see for themselves. The final agreement will be made public still_one Apr 2015 #52

Well since I know nothing about you or your son I'll stick with Warren! Nt Logical Apr 2015 #53

And Grayson and Sanders and Sherrod Brown and Barbara Lee and Warren Doctor_J Apr 2015 #56

+1000 nt Logical Apr 2015 #57

This thread brought to you courtesy of 270 Strategies. n/t brentspeak Apr 2015 #58

We need to stop this fighting neighbor tim Apr 2015 #59

No she's horrible. Pick someone better Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #60

She's a fine lady neighbor tim Apr 2015 #61

Gosh, I hope you won't be offended if I say I think you're a bullshitter. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #89

I'm not offended. neighbor tim Apr 2015 #96

I can't get enough of posters who insist DU must unite behind them. merrily Apr 2015 #67

We have to trust President Obama. neighbor tim Apr 2015 #69

Actually, we don't, he isn't and I hope to heaven infighting does help us. merrily Apr 2015 #71

We just have to trust him on this one. neighbor tim Apr 2015 #77

Why are you repeating what I just replied to? merrily Apr 2015 #80

I don't know . This is all new to me. I'll try and see. neighbor tim Apr 2015 #81

You get an extra tuna sandwich for having the last word. merrily Apr 2015 #84

no we don't. and it's republicans who heavily support this. cali Apr 2015 #75

We have to have President Obama's back. neighbor tim Apr 2015 #76

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #73

If it's so great...let us SEE it... Ken Burch Apr 2015 #62

Excuse me if I don't take your son's word on it. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #68

I expect our government to do what is the right thing for us, not necessarily what misinformed Hoyt Apr 2015 #86

My son thinks it's a shit agreement. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #70

I don't monitor China trade Rolando Apr 2015 #88

If all that were true, then why are Republicans supporting it? n/t eridani Apr 2015 #95

My son is President Obama's personal advisor. He says the deal sucks. So there. Scuba Apr 2015 #97

Well then make it public and let people read it and discuss it rurallib Apr 2015 #98

Eh gobears10 Apr 2015 #99