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82. Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that they're disregarding or rejecting the culture?

Reply to MrScorpio (Reply #62)

Fri Apr 24, 2015, 09:09 PM

Apr 2015

And is there a point at which someone is wearing their hair in that fashion just because they like the way they look?

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"Electronic Dance Music Festivals Fraught With White Privilege" [View all] Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 OP

She has got to be fucking kidding. MicaelS Apr 2015 #1

fair is fair so aa women must give up wigs elehhhhna Apr 2015 #101

+1. Some of her complaints were legit. Others.... such bullshit. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #193

OFFS nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #2

There is a time and a place for every kind of stupidity hifiguy Apr 2015 #3

"There's everything wrong with white people having dreadlocks" Bullshit...Bullshit. BlueJazz Apr 2015 #4

Gotta love those authoritarians... TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #192

I used to go to raves and edm festivals in the 90s in NYC... JaneyVee Apr 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #6

I believe "cultural appropriation" will no longer be a useful term soon. RadiationTherapy Apr 2015 #7

It's already been happening for fifty years. hifiguy Apr 2015 #10

Picasso dates it back even further. RadiationTherapy Apr 2015 #18

There is interesting, then there is white South African gangsta rap Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #47

Ever heard some of Delia Derbyshire's 1960s experiments? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #171

accusations of cultural appropriation are also leveled at white hip-hop acts.. frylock Apr 2015 #21

Hell, it was used against the blues-based English rock musicians hifiguy Apr 2015 #25

Interestingly, one of the very first punk bands was three black dudes from Detroit Scootaloo Apr 2015 #27

In the Band part of my life, a few times I was told I shouldn't be playing Jazz. I play Piano, Sax. BlueJazz Apr 2015 #195

majoring in human development she is? seveneyes Apr 2015 #8

"but this was not a safe space for me to express my love of music as a black woman." Throd Apr 2015 #9

Aside from seeing white people with dreads smoking pot, what other micro-aggressions did she Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #11

Isn't that ENOUGH hifiguy Apr 2015 #12

White people smoking weed and wearing dreadlocks ruined it for her? Taitertots Apr 2015 #13

I've seen worse. Igel Apr 2015 #28

China, Korea and Japan have all embraced European classical music hifiguy Apr 2015 #33

I disagree Scootaloo Apr 2015 #29

so are white people allowed to smoke pot and wear dreads, or not? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #34

of course they are. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #36

Having spent years on dead tour Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #37

I rock the Viking look, myself Scootaloo Apr 2015 #39

HAMMER OF THE GODS Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #40

You can never go wrong with Zep hifiguy Apr 2015 #44

I used to see Dread Zeppelin play in bars. You know, the Led Zep cover band with the Elvis guy. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #76

When I stopped in to Newbury Comics in Harvard Square hifiguy Apr 2015 #80

Eh, not quite... Scootaloo Apr 2015 #48

You have the best taste in Music. bravenak Apr 2015 #51

It's really easy when you listen to everything except country Scootaloo Apr 2015 #54

That was so awesome. The dance moves had me up brushing off my shoulders. bravenak Apr 2015 #60

I heard that song before the original it's based on Scootaloo Apr 2015 #81

You went to school with them? bravenak Apr 2015 #90

There is a pretty big gap between traditional country/bluegrass etc. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #63

Here's a whole live album with Jerry tearing it up on the 5-string banjo. hifiguy Apr 2015 #68

Yeah, that's a great album. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #73

All of those cats could PLAY hifiguy Apr 2015 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #93

I like it, thanks! Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #70

Binghampton University is in New York. Brickbat Apr 2015 #14

There's no "p" in Binghamton alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #178

Why is everyone so angry at her? Brickbat Apr 2015 #15

She goes to a music festival and decides that other peoples' hairstyles and recreational choices Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #35

So what? Brickbat Apr 2015 #46

Blaming the massive injustices of the drug war on white kids who get high at concerts Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #56

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about everyone on this thread. Brickbat Apr 2015 #57

She claimed that seeing people with dreads smoking pot made it a "nightmare" of "micro-aggressions" Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #67

The phrase "nightmare of micro-aggressions" is fraught hifiguy Apr 2015 #85

Right? Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #72

No. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #78

It's like no one on this thread was ever young. Brickbat Apr 2015 #83

Being young does not preclude someone from being laughably wrong. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #86

We actually remember being young hifiguy Apr 2015 #87

I was so much older, then, I'm younger than that now. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #99

You've reached out to the author? Brickbat Apr 2015 #108

She put out a piece for public consumption. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #110

The war on drugs is complete bullshit. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #59

Electric Forest is in a very rural county with a small law enforcement contingent amandabeech Apr 2015 #167

I stopped reading after she talked about dreads Travis_0004 Apr 2015 #84

Because she's talking nonsense? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #154

Is this satire? cyberswede Apr 2015 #16

Sadly, I don't think it is. hifiguy Apr 2015 #22

guess she's never been to a reggae show shanti Apr 2015 #17

Or even worse, a Dread Zeppelin show Revanchist Apr 2015 #69

A "nightmare"? Because of some folks' hairstyles? Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #19

Seems more like she's laying the groundwork for... CANDO Apr 2015 #31

Black people are being shot in the street, evicted en masse, denied the right to vote, etc. XemaSab Apr 2015 #20

Excellent article. Recced! nt MrScorpio Apr 2015 #23

Right. I was especially impressed by her wearing "faux-locs." Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #24

Well, the best thing about cultural appropriation... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #62

Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that they're disregarding or rejecting the culture? Inkfreak Apr 2015 #82

I'm saying that this is just another example of appropriating black culture without black people... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #87

I see what you're saying, Mr. Scorpio.. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #94

Well, I'm glad that you're admitting that minorities face an uphill battle... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #98

Great answer. I wonder how many people read your post. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #198

Is this what colleges are turning out these days? Glassunion Apr 2015 #26

Only those romanic Apr 2015 #139

Yeah. No. bravenak Apr 2015 #30

A nightmare, eh? I don't get it. And I don't care to. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #32

Lol she's fun to party with Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #38

I was at that show. Here's a video ... seveneyes Apr 2015 #41

LMAO! I never thought I'd see a SYL video on DU. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #45

He could be my Canadian Brother seveneyes Apr 2015 #52

IIRC, SYL's drummer is also Dethklok's drummer. hifiguy Apr 2015 #50

Close; he's based off the frontman, Devon Townsend Scootaloo Apr 2015 #53

Gene Hogland, SYL's drummer hifiguy Apr 2015 #58

never imagined i'd be discussing dethklok on DU. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #61

I never dreamed I'd be discussing anything on DU hifiguy Apr 2015 #64

Best Glam Metal band ever! Scootaloo Apr 2015 #65

Absolutely. hifiguy Apr 2015 #71

Miss Desruisseaux couldn't find something important... NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #42

"A safe place" TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #43

Great reply! NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #104

The part about the hair is dumb but the part about the drugs out in the open treestar Apr 2015 #49

You have obviously never been to a music festival. Everyone's doing drugs riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #96

True I haven't treestar Apr 2015 #105

Electric Forest is pretty bland pop music with a strong electronic sound riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #107

That was a valid point on her part, but she seems to blame the wrong people PersonNumber503602 Apr 2015 #196

Sigh. This is the kind of stuff people GENERALIZE liberalism to be. alp227 Apr 2015 #55

She's still young. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #66

I call them Tumblr-inspired social justice warriors. EVERYTHING is "problematic." Metric System Apr 2015 #74

So make an argument why they're reaching. alp227 Apr 2015 #89

Right, telling black people that we're just supposed to "get over it..." MrScorpio Apr 2015 #109

If someone had actually done something to her, you might have a point. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #111

I read that she expanded her narrative into the greater Drug War scenario... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #114

If she was trying to write an op-ed about the drug war, she failed miserably. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #115

She cited a specific example of white privilege and the cultural component of the drug war MrScorpio Apr 2015 #117

Again, if her point was that we should end the drug war, she didn't do a very good job of making it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #121

So you're objecting to how she framed a point that you're in agreement with about the drug war... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #125

"there is everything wrong with white people having dreadlocks"- do you agree with that statement? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #131

If you're not willing to understand her point about white privilege and cultural appropriation... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #136

If you're not willing to understand her point about white privilege and cultural appropriation... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #137

That's not, really, an answer to the question I asked. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #138

Would it be too much trouble to take in all in context? MrScorpio Apr 2015 #146

Just like it doesn't make sense to blame pot smoking hippies for racist drug cops Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #150

Did you happen to read the part where she cited specific examples... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #170

I'm sorry, but if the concern amounts to telling someone else that they shouldn't wear their hair Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #188

While I agree with your bigger point, you're very wrong when it comes to this case riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #123

Well, that's the choice of the police, right? MrScorpio Apr 2015 #128

I already said I agree with your point while disputing this particular festival riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #129

They also set up phony cell phone towers in the parking lots of Phish concerts, to catch drug users. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #133

It seems that a settlement resulted from that homicide.... xocet Apr 2015 #197

I reread the article. romanic Apr 2015 #143

"Cultural segregationist�" MrScorpio Apr 2015 #145

I mean to say romanic Apr 2015 #148

Whatever floats your boat... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #149

I mean... romanic Apr 2015 #151

When you're combing student papers to find student viewpoints to be outraged about? Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #75

Chelsea is clueless malaise Apr 2015 #79

Maybe its satire. aikoaiko Apr 2015 #91

I wish. bravenak Apr 2015 #92

"Microagression" = butt hurt VScott Apr 2015 #95

Your post is microaggressive and should carry a "trigger warning" (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #142

This is what people complain about when they have no real causes leveymg Apr 2015 #97

Complete and total Bullshit postatomic Apr 2015 #100

TL;DR? Here's a synopsis: I am by no means judging anyone... but... Turborama Apr 2015 #102

Love a Puli. SMC22307 Apr 2015 #103

This has to be satire Doctor_J Apr 2015 #106

Why did you post this OP? What was your point in doing so? kwassa Apr 2015 #112

Dreadlocks originated from Hindu yogis and other eastern holy men riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #118

Sorry, but your history is incorrect. kwassa Apr 2015 #126

Here's another source that disputes that. riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #127

I don't see the Indian sadhu connection. kwassa Apr 2015 #130

There's a long history of Indians from India in the Caribbean riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #132

But what is his source? kwassa Apr 2015 #134

Understood. It's also in the article I linked to above. riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #135

Picture of a sadhu with dreadlocks: CJCRANE Apr 2015 #166

Damn skippy! nt MrScorpio Apr 2015 #120

The OP romanic Apr 2015 #144

you have proven over and over again in this forum ... kwassa Apr 2015 #175

Don't opine romanic Apr 2015 #182

if this was her first time seeing white people with dreadlocks she hasn't gotten out much. nt m-lekktor Apr 2015 #113

I agree about the visible drug culture. betsuni Apr 2015 #116

most of those people are in prison because of the drug WAR Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #122

Obviously. betsuni Apr 2015 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Matariki Apr 2015 #119

Chelsea romanic Apr 2015 #140

She needs to get cwydro Apr 2015 #141

I despise fashion police. Quantess Apr 2015 #147

I don't see what the problem is with her opinion? JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #152

Entitled little SJW. TM99 Apr 2015 #153

This thread is a pathetic example of what DU has become. RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #155

I just saw it and wow gollygee Apr 2015 #156

Music festivals are for everybody. romanic Apr 2015 #157

You are so wrong it is truly sad. TM99 Apr 2015 #160

That is so tangential to what I said I actually wonder if you meant to reply to me. RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #161

Why do you continue to defend this woman? TM99 Apr 2015 #164

My post was a reflection on the responses here, which I found disturbing. RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #165

You can find my posts in my profile TM99 Apr 2015 #173

I respect that. I see both as significant issues. nt RedCappedBandit Apr 2015 #174

Haha TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #162

"All about me" is a part of being young TM99 Apr 2015 #163

Sure, it's part of being young TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #191

Thanks for the info LittleBlue Apr 2015 #168

You are welcome. TM99 Apr 2015 #172

Your post is full of unsupported assumptions. kwassa Apr 2015 #176

I have been very honest TM99 Apr 2015 #179

Lol, I missed the hula hoop team member! riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #187

Actually we can know some things about what she spent riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #180

Thank you. TM99 Apr 2015 #189

I haven't been except my experience I outlined in post #123 riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #194

for people who do not get the OP DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #158

She should have just admitted white people make her uncomfortable and gone from there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #159

Trustafarians... CJCRANE Apr 2015 #169

the cybergoth look d_r Apr 2015 #177

Silly privaleged white girls and their cultural appropriation of ethnic hairstyles VScott Apr 2015 #184

Hmm...okay, I'm interested. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #185

Well I'm convinced. I'm not going to wear dreadlocks. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #181

How bout a Techno Viking kind of dred beard and pony tail. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #183

I can see that becoming a trend. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #186

get on a plane and experience the African house scene bettydavis Apr 2015 #190