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Liz Warren plays political games too [View all] MaggieD Apr 2015 OP

OK cali Apr 2015 #1

Warren is a fine stateswoman when it comes to economic issues. ananda Apr 2015 #13

Me too Aerows Apr 2015 #41

Really! And to side with Palul Ryan instead of tblue Apr 2015 #88

I agree with everything you wrote MaggieD Apr 2015 #20

She has not only pretended to stand up for the people Aerows Apr 2015 #43

I don't dislike her at all... MaggieD Apr 2015 #66

i am very excited about warren. powerful women with a powerful voice. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #124

I am too! But I genuinely believe that her supporters will be the thing that smash her like a grape Number23 Apr 2015 #166

too many are just using her. to disrupt du and bash obama. too many really do not give a fuck seabeyond Apr 2015 #169

I agree. And this idea that she is a sweet, little blonde lamb that is a paragon of truth and virtue Number23 Apr 2015 #171

Hey, Hey, Hey! HassleCat Apr 2015 #2

Good post. And if you haven't been properly welcomed, welcome. If so, another never hurts. n/t libdem4life Apr 2015 #101

She registered in 2001 merrily Apr 2015 #132

The profile says March of 2015. 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #159

How very odd. That is not what it said when I looked. Also the OP posted on this merrily Apr 2015 #160

Says 2001 merrily Apr 2015 #161

I think you're looking at MaggieD's profile. libdem4life, whose ... 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #163

Yes, the OP's. Apparently, I did not follow the thread correctly. Sorry! merrily Apr 2015 #164

All politicians play games. LWolf Apr 2015 #3

That's the point MaggieD Apr 2015 #108

Don't you mean Warren and pretty much every other Democratic policitian. Dawgs Apr 2015 #4

The article is about Warren, but... MaggieD Apr 2015 #5

Right, because trade negotiations have worked so well for us in the past. Dawgs Apr 2015 #6

That may be true, but has nothing to do with my post MaggieD Apr 2015 #12

Yes it does. Dawgs Apr 2015 #96

No, I'm saying she is NOT a political noob MaggieD Apr 2015 #104

I like how organized labor, human rights and environmental groups were especially well represented. Octafish Apr 2015 #7

That's a good reason to be against it MaggieD Apr 2015 #15

The TPP is the death knell for our country Aerows Apr 2015 #45

Well alright y then........... Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #8

They aren't noobs - that's the point MaggieD Apr 2015 #14

Oh she's a liar then Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #16

She's playing politics MaggieD Apr 2015 #19

Where did you come from? Aerows Apr 2015 #46

As you once kindly told me, we all can see. merrily Apr 2015 #76

I hope it wasn't in a harsh context Aerows Apr 2015 #92

No, it was not in a harsh context at all. It was, as I said, kind advice. merrily Apr 2015 #93

Where did I come from? MaggieD Apr 2015 #105

I'm rude? Aerows Apr 2015 #112

Be specific on my rudeness, as you call it MaggieD Apr 2015 #115

This is hilarious Aerows Apr 2015 #117

Oh FFS - really? MaggieD Apr 2015 #120

Well, yeah but... Bobbie Jo Apr 2015 #138

Oh boy Aerows Apr 2015 #91

Not to worry, the Captains of Industry know what G_j Apr 2015 #9

It will all trickle down Aerows Apr 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #74

See, it's not just Obama's trustworthiness to get a less than halfway decent deal. hedda_foil Apr 2015 #10

That is objectively untrue MaggieD Apr 2015 #11

Oh......... it started under Bush and Cheney Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #17

No, it started without US involvement MaggieD Apr 2015 #18

Oh........ just out of blue then Ichingcarpenter Apr 2015 #21

Anything that Republicans are ardently for Aerows Apr 2015 #48

So you think Obama is lying... MaggieD Apr 2015 #59

I trust Elizabeth Warren Aerows Apr 2015 #89

me, too. but thank you for your information in here. dying for some facts. thank you maggieD. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #29

Maybe it's just a case of, "I saw it on the Internet, so it must be true." procon Apr 2015 #51

You are describing the article that is the basis of this thread. merrily Apr 2015 #85

It's the same info that's on govt and natl press websites. procon Apr 2015 #100

It's no surprise they support Obama. Nonetheless, the OP article is worthless. merrily Apr 2015 #130

Under the guise of learning everything I can, procon Apr 2015 #139

I've never been in any personality cult. No one has proven she lied or was duplicitous. No one can. merrily Apr 2015 #141

Here's to hoping they find a cure for those lyin' eyes. nt. procon Apr 2015 #143

Your claim is that Warren KNOWS America will like the TPP, but is saying America won't? merrily Apr 2015 #144

Those are your words, yeah? procon Apr 2015 #149

I think you misquoted Warren. You also left out the part where Obama called her out merrily Apr 2015 #150

I quoted straight from Warren's own words on her website. procon Apr 2015 #153

No, you did not quote Warren's words. You took words attributed to other people out of context. merrily Apr 2015 #154

When she leaves out a corroborating source, they are her words. procon Apr 2015 #155

NO, they are not. merrily Apr 2015 #157

Whose words are they, merrily? procon Apr 2015 #162

Why repeat comments I just addressed? See Reply157. merrily Apr 2015 #165

That was a strange dodge. procon Apr 2015 #170

Dodge? I am not obligated to repeat myself every time you repeat yourself. Again, see Replies 154 merrily Apr 2015 #172

If Paul Ryan Aerows Apr 2015 #110

I don't make snap decisions based on third party opinions. procon Apr 2015 #122

You will be waiting Aerows Apr 2015 #123

My crystal ball was repossessed when I was 17; procon Apr 2015 #127

Let's look at the facts. hedda_foil Apr 2015 #22

Oh brother, did you even read... MaggieD Apr 2015 #58

What she copied and pasted does not support your statement. merrily Apr 2015 #78

Of course it does MaggieD Apr 2015 #106

Wow. That is NOT what your post 11 conveyed at all. Talk about moving a goalpost. merrily Apr 2015 #133

It did start in 2002 MaggieD Apr 2015 #146

The talks for the TPP did not start in 2002, as your post 11 said. That was a different merrily Apr 2015 #148

If you don't know this is just an extension.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #173

Is that really the question? Perhaps I am confused on that point, but I wonder if Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #23

She sure as shite does. Cha Apr 2015 #24

KICK Cha Apr 2015 #25

Seems to be a real outbreak of anti-Warren Obama is right fever on the board tonight rurallib Apr 2015 #26

Fine, caution abounds, but that isn't what Warren said. ucrdem Apr 2015 #28

Oh? So Warren *could* have told Rachel exactly what she'd read without facing some winter is coming Apr 2015 #49

It's in a locked room. People have to have a security clearance to read it AND have merrily Apr 2015 #54

You are at least the third or fouth poster who has pointed out the sudden influx. merrily Apr 2015 #134

Well, she has read it ans still does not like it. Are you saying she is making it up? nt Logical Apr 2015 #27

Yes, she's making it up. There is no deal. It's still being negotiated. ucrdem Apr 2015 #30

Wait, so you think the American people will like it?? She is lying about it? nt Logical Apr 2015 #31

Not what I said. nt ucrdem Apr 2015 #32

Mahalo ucr! Shame on her disingenuous grandstanding like that. Cha Apr 2015 #33

The last Massachusetts pol to go mano-a-mano with PBO was Mitt Romney ucrdem Apr 2015 #34

Yeah, she's not telling the truth about everything.. and I don't give a shite what her supporters Cha Apr 2015 #42

Bullshit! nt Logical Apr 2015 #38

LOL, she READ SOMETHING so she is saying what she said the people will not like...... Logical Apr 2015 #35

She said it was being kept secret. "It" doesn't exist. ucrdem Apr 2015 #36

Bullshit...... Logical Apr 2015 #37

Those are negotiating drafts. There is no final draft that can be made public. ucrdem Apr 2015 #40

Then HOW CAN OBAMA BE SUPPORTING IT????? If she does not have enough information.... Logical Apr 2015 #44

Stop pulling stuff out of your ear. merrily Apr 2015 #55

I agree with the linked article in the OP MaggieD Apr 2015 #60

Under the Bus Aerows Apr 2015 #39

Who are you? Aerows Apr 2015 #50

How many posts do we need? procon Apr 2015 #52

Not many, apparently Aerows Apr 2015 #53

Member since 2001. Under 600 posts. Says she reads here every day. merrily Apr 2015 #79

Yep - I was told to take off my tin foil hat. Aerows Apr 2015 #90

I saw. merrily Apr 2015 #94

This place isn't a friendly or welcoming environment. procon Apr 2015 #98

Exactly. MerryBlooms Apr 2015 #156

It's that all you've got? MaggieD Apr 2015 #62

Pure ad hominem treestar Apr 2015 #125

Maybe. But if so, she's doing it right. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #56

Meow. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #57

Wow, that's mature MaggieD Apr 2015 #61

Elizabeth knows whereof she speaks. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #63

Yes, she knows she is being untruthful.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #64

She's telling the truth. You choose to believe Third Way lies. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #65

She's not, sorry MaggieD Apr 2015 #72

You found an opinion hit piece in the Daily Banter that supports the position you wanted to take merrily Apr 2015 #81

The same info is available on govt and natl press websites. Google works. nt procon Apr 2015 #99

Government websites support Obama? Is that your proof Warren is lying? merrily Apr 2015 #135

Yes, Elizabeth Warren is being untruthful and of course nobody wants to see that. So they attack Cha Apr 2015 #67

really sorry to see you turn to the dark side AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #68

You call it the "dark side".. that's doesn't mean it's dark. I have enough respect not to Cha Apr 2015 #69

Nor did I. The OP gratuitously attacked Elizabeth AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #71

A Facebook opinion post??? MaggieD Apr 2015 #73

Who can possibly argue with an opinion hit piece in a webzine that flat out claims Warren is lying? merrily Apr 2015 #82

I will state again... MaggieD Apr 2015 #70

Again, thank you.. I agree with what Tommy Christopher said in his article, too. He explains Cha Apr 2015 #75

It's probably just a coincidence the rec's are all from Clinton supporters. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #77

I support whichever Democrat MaggieD Apr 2015 #80

And also just a coincidence that most of the strongest Obama supporters are also the merrily Apr 2015 #84

I rec'd it - and I'm not a Clinton supporter JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #95

In this case, Obama supporter would be more relevant. merrily Apr 2015 #136

I'll see your ugh and raise you two yuckies and a nana nana boo boo. merrily Apr 2015 #83

Where did I say... MaggieD Apr 2015 #107

YOU read for comprehension. I said you found an article that supported the position you wanted to merrily Apr 2015 #129

Pot. Kettle. merrily Apr 2015 #87

Uh no MaggieD Apr 2015 #109

Uh, yes. Point was, your response was no more "adult level" than the poster you merrily Apr 2015 #137

This thread proves one thing. Some of us tend to think anyone who agrees with the position we want merrily Apr 2015 #86

I disagree MaggieD Apr 2015 #113

No surprise. However, you haven't proven she used bs. Your OP article is ridiculous. merrily Apr 2015 #128

"ANY trade talks" of the past 20 years have been strictly devoted to-- eridani Apr 2015 #97

A tenured professor at Harvard adept at playing political games? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. mulsh Apr 2015 #102

If Democrats treated republicans like they are treating Ms. Warren, they'd win more elections notadmblnd Apr 2015 #103

Maybe. And maybe they'd only come off as squabblers. merrily Apr 2015 #147

Politicians might be "convinced" fadedrose Apr 2015 #111

Republicans LOVE the TPP Aerows Apr 2015 #114

Agreed MaggieD Apr 2015 #118

It is secret Aerows Apr 2015 #121

The framework is public MaggieD Apr 2015 #126

PROVE she is being deceptive when she says America will not like it. merrily Apr 2015 #142

I didn't say that MaggieD Apr 2015 #145

I didn't say she was being deceptive about that.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #174

I think Warren and the Dems should hold the TPP hostage just like the GOP does all the time. hollowdweller Apr 2015 #116

I agree Aerows Apr 2015 #119

Yep. Grayson, Lee, Sanders, Brown and others. Not only Warren. merrily Apr 2015 #140

Appreciate your courage here and elsewhere. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #131

Hear hear. Efforts are much appreciated MaggieD. great white snark Apr 2015 #152

Well, since this administration sold public education to the highest bidder.... madfloridian Apr 2015 #151

Yeah, and she's playing another one now.. with her latest.. Cha Apr 2015 #158

Some people sure have taken an interest in your OP. Consider it a (revolting and unwanted) complimen Number23 Apr 2015 #167

Precisely MaggieD Apr 2015 #175

Actually, Number 23, you don't know whether Warren ever voted for Reagan or not. merrily Apr 2015 #176

Now that she's the liberal queen, she was asked point blank if she voted for Reagan and "declined" Number23 Apr 2015 #177

Zero evidence on either issue, but you'll believe what you want. merrily Apr 2015 #178

And you're as touchy as you are invested. Number23 Apr 2015 #179

unrec! n/t sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #168