General Discussion

MisterP

(23,730 posts)

59. well, technically it's noh theater, but--

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:29 PM

Apr 2015

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

67 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Charles Pierce: TPP approval process 'an exercise in kabuki democracy' [View all] bigtree Apr 2015 OP

What were/are the labor and environmental standards in these countries before? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #1

fantastic bigtree Apr 2015 #3

+1 Enthusiast Apr 2015 #10

I believe we should keep pushing for better labor/enviro standards. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #13

TPP has two primary goals: hifiguy Apr 2015 #22

I don't think opponents of this trade pact endorse 'giving up' bigtree Apr 2015 #26

+10 million!!!! This is a textbook case of what we'll find happening riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #43

How is the TPP going to do that? For all countries involved? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #46

it would be if enforceable cali Apr 2015 #5

you asked a question. you got responses. so what do you think? cali Apr 2015 #9

Here's what I think: JaneyVee Apr 2015 #15

insanity is doing the same thing over and over in the hope cali Apr 2015 #17

I agree, there has to be a better way, and I'm all for stricter enforcement. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #28

Australia, Canada and Japan have zero labor and environmental standards????? fasttense Apr 2015 #41

Japan does, indeed, have strict labor standards Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #61

I thought so. fasttense Apr 2015 #66

First of all that would be good if it actually happened. But if any of these so-called "Free-Trade" rhett o rick Apr 2015 #44

It's the same communist government in Vietnam. Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #62

under the bus you go, Charlie cali Apr 2015 #2

Hyperbole. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #14

sure. employed to make a valid point cali Apr 2015 #25

By who? I absolutely love Pierce. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #27

He'll need a job someday. kentuck Apr 2015 #4

He sees how lavishly the Clintons were compensated for the services hifiguy Apr 2015 #18

+1 Well said. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #36

He finally comes out swinging, and it's against his own Party. SMC22307 Apr 2015 #6

I am at the same place on this. sybylla Apr 2015 #34

Agree with everything you said. SMC22307 Apr 2015 #40

Exactly. Why get his back up now?? Over TPP? Weird, indeed. Nay Apr 2015 #49

This is the Big Tuna. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #54

It's not secret, but we're not talking about it. DirkGently Apr 2015 #7

"This is a screw job, period, or it wouldn't be handled this way." SusanCalvin Apr 2015 #12

"... want something gigantic, done quickly, with a minimum of discussion ... ". I have seen this GoneFishin Apr 2015 #20

Seems like we all know this pattern, DirkGently Apr 2015 #23

Yep. Disaster capitalism salib Apr 2015 #57

Seems President Obama's only averse to ad hominem attacks from the left. nt truebluegreen Apr 2015 #8

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #11

The President is lying his ass off about TPP. hifiguy Apr 2015 #16

+1. He sounds desperate. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #21

K & R AzDar Apr 2015 #19

Kick. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #24

Charlie Pierce and the Rude Pundit are my favorite reads! ybbor Apr 2015 #29

I have a suggestion for anyone who uses the word "kabuki" to describe politics: Orrex Apr 2015 #30

meh. The art of song and dance bigtree Apr 2015 #33

"Kabuki" Depaysement Apr 2015 #35

Interesting tidbit Fairgo Apr 2015 #51

My "gutter-minded" brain read that as a different Japanese word MNBrewer Apr 2015 #64

"it has swallowed enough snake oil to gag a python" MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #31

Indeed. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #37

Even if it looks good on paper, moondust Apr 2015 #32

Kick and R. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #38

I can only hope he keeps "pushing back hard". pa28 Apr 2015 #39

"big clanging brass ones" indeed! k&r polichick Apr 2015 #42

Yes, the TPP is secret. cui bono Apr 2015 #45

Remember when Obama said he was "against" Citizens United??? blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #47

K n R for whole thread. Duppers Apr 2015 #48

a handful of people(worldwide) decide this . why is that? quadrature Apr 2015 #50

Love Charlie Pierce, tells it like it is. Please sign the petition..link Fla Dem Apr 2015 #52

same shit he was selling during the strong-arming of progressives ibegurpard Apr 2015 #53

Bill Clinton gets a presidential pension sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #55

K&R... elzenmahn Apr 2015 #56

thank you bigtree Skittles Apr 2015 #58

well, technically it's noh theater, but-- MisterP Apr 2015 #59

Right. No plot, no taste, no talent. n/t eridani Apr 2015 #60

pierce has been pretty consistent, but we got to this point by letting Obama get away with a lot Doctor_J Apr 2015 #63

K&R It ain't complicated. It is history, it is our future. raouldukelives Apr 2015 #65

Just sent this to my Senators uknotes Apr 2015 #67