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72. I can not speak for others

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:46 PM

Apr 2015

But my theory is that some feel they need to cave to the right wing in order to triangulate, 3d chess style. Pro-Abortion is too "in your face" and confrontational and may drive christian conservatives nuts. They don't want to strike the hornet's nest so are playing it safe. But just like many D vs R battles, when we compromise our values, the right wing just slowly eats away at what we value.

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I think abortion is like a root canal. [View all] pnwmom Apr 2015 OP

That's one of the best, and least judgmental, analogies I think I've ever read. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #1

It is a medical procedure. Downwinder Apr 2015 #2

Why would my post make you think I'd want a politician to make my medical decisions? pnwmom Apr 2015 #3

Dental is not covered by Medicare. Politicians decided. Downwinder Apr 2015 #13

I'm pro-abortion/root canal/triple bypass and every other fucking medical procedure. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #4

And I respect your choice. pnwmom Apr 2015 #8

You started this thread because you judged pro-abortion posters and found them wanting. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #23

The need for an abortion CAN be prevented, in most cases. Chemisse Apr 2015 #25

Are you pro-abortion? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #30

Ah, such a breath of fresh air! haikugal Apr 2015 #39

Thank you! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #42

K & R good post. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #5

This comparison to cardiac or dental procedures is crazy, IMHO. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #6

It's a moral judgment. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #7

And get edicated{sic} PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #9

I guess I should have been more edicated. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #12

And you shouldn't be. One in three women have an abortion by age 45. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #16

Exactly! n/t Chemisse Apr 2015 #28

So what's wrong with being pro-abortion? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #32

What's wrong with being pro-choice? pnwmom Apr 2015 #44

You said you don't feel "right" about being pro-abortion. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #47

That's not what I said. I said I am pro-choice. pnwmom Apr 2015 #62

How is what you feel about abortion different than how we feel? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #115

Absolutely nothing. What's wrong with admitting you're pro abortion? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #52

Because I'd rather avoid an abortion, if possible. I'm not pro-root canal, either. That's just me. pnwmom Apr 2015 #56

We all would. What's wrong with being pro abortion? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #59

Pro-abortion = anti-choice Chemisse Apr 2015 #63

What??? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #65

Isn't that what this term implies? Chemisse Apr 2015 #81

No. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #83

Holy crap, no! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #87

What a crock of shit. Solly Mack Apr 2015 #67

We're promoting abortions, Solly. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #73

Maybe we should offer up KitchenAid� mixers for making fetus dip Solly Mack Apr 2015 #80

Fancy!! PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #85

Of course! Solly Mack Apr 2015 #91

That's a good idea, they'll go great with the Ginzu knives. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #92

Fuck it. Just grab an ice pick. Solly Mack Apr 2015 #95

LOL! There is some skill involved. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #99

Lol! Chemisse Apr 2015 #88

No, it doesn't. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #71

I don't think it's wrong that you are pro-abortion. pnwmom Apr 2015 #66

But you are pro abortion. You just think it's icky to say it. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #79

I think abortions, like root canals, are unpleasant, uncomfortable procedures pnwmom Apr 2015 #89

And you think we feel they're pleasant, comfortable procedures? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #110

Being pro-abortion is favoring abortion as an option. Chemisse Apr 2015 #58

There should be exactly as many abortions as are necessary. That could be more than there are. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #68

This makes good sense. Chemisse Apr 2015 #98

Are you fucking kidding me? We're promoting abortions? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #70

That is certainly what it sounds like. Chemisse Apr 2015 #94

Maybe I should find a new term? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #101

I don't see anyone doing that by being pro-abortion. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #78

That is what you mean. Chemisse Apr 2015 #103

I think you read only the title and not the content of the thread or linked article PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #107

Really? I didn't think about it at all. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #108

Now that is a mind-boggling enlightenment Apr 2015 #86

Exactly Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #10

I'm not making a moral judgment about pro-abortion hussies beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #14

That's not true. I recognize that contraception can and does fail -- through no fault of the user -- pnwmom Apr 2015 #11

How many dentist offices are there per state right now? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #21

I addressed that in the OP: pnwmom Apr 2015 #26

That's pro-abortion. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #37

Totes. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #40

If "pro-abortion" is the same as "pro-choice" then why is it so important for you to distinguish pnwmom Apr 2015 #43

Why is it so important to YOU, pnwmom? You started this thread. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #45

I'm not against your pro-abortion stance. But I'm more comfortable with a pro-choice position. pnwmom Apr 2015 #49

That's pro-abortion. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #54

We all think they "are better off avoided, if possible, " PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #55

Exactly. Does she think we really have an Abortion of the Month Club? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #61

I'm in one. You get a free one after the twelfth punch. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #69

Do I get to choose who to punch? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #74

SOL PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #77

Well maybe you do! LOL. Chemisse Apr 2015 #76

Edicate {sic} yourself. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #90

No, Jesus F Christ, it doesn't imply anything of the kind. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #97

Clearly I need to repeat myself. Chemisse Apr 2015 #100

There is *no* problem with the term. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #102

The whole discussion was about owning the issue, changing the narrative. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #48

I did read the article. Chemisse Apr 2015 #111

Sigh. Nope. Wow, you're jaded. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #117

I thought you were biased because of the label but now I realize I was wrong. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #122

I just had that realization as well. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #129

It took them a while to get there. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #130

On the plus side, I was the whiz on my high school debate team! PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #132

We learn so much about ourselves here. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #134

No, the procedures are completely comparable; that's why the different responses are irrational. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #139

I think you are saying the same thing. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #141

no one attempts to stop you from having a root canal cali Apr 2015 #15

Unless they decide that you don't really need one. Orrex Apr 2015 #19

And if you read my post I say that abortions should be just as available to anyone pnwmom Apr 2015 #20

That's pro-abortion. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #41

The term pro-abortion doesn't feel as if it fits me as well as pro-choice. pnwmom Apr 2015 #84

You still haven't explained the difference between how you feel and how we feel. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #104

That is a point I made in the OP, where I said that an abortion should be as freely pnwmom Apr 2015 #46

I recommend you change dentists. Solly Mack Apr 2015 #17

I wouldn't have to drive 150 miles for a root canal. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #18

Yup. And that's why I said abortions should be just as available, no matter pnwmom Apr 2015 #22

So... You're supportive of abortion? Dare I say, "pro" ? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #24

Bingo. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #29

I'm pro-choice. Period. But I wouldn't want to go through an abortion pnwmom Apr 2015 #31

Which means you support abortion. And are pro-it. Yay! PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #34

How is that any different than what pro-abortion posters feel? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #35

People start threads all the time. For whatever reason. There are no rules. n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #38

You said "Because that's the one that feels right to me." beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #50

I don't "need" to explain anything to you. pnwmom Apr 2015 #53

Why start a thread about the differences if you're not going to discuss them? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #57

^^this PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #60

Yep. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #64

I can not speak for others PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #72

It's very condescending. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #75

If that's the case they should just stay in the closet with the anti-abortion wingnuts. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #82

I saw that in another thread as well. Another poster. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #96

No way, it's appreciated. Thanks. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #105

You are welcome PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #118

Oh, you're needed and wanted PTTP, very much. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #106

TY PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #119

.. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #27

as a woman who had an abortion, I gwheezie Apr 2015 #33

And I feel lucky that I never found myself in that situation, pnwmom Apr 2015 #36

I think it's a good analogy. Chemisse Apr 2015 #51

Edicate {sic} yourself. You're so very wrong it's kinda sad. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #93

this person has a great point but you're again resorting to presumptuous, unfounded belittling n/t zazen Apr 2015 #114

What point? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #125

I'm still waiting to hear a logical response to this. Chemisse Apr 2015 #116

Like I said, you're jaded by right wing framing. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #121

Oh that is rich. Chemisse Apr 2015 #126

No, I did not call you right wing. Read it again. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #127

You know nothing about me. Chemisse Apr 2015 #135

Are you claiming that reasoned arguments were not presented to you? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #136

How are we "trying to increase the numbers of abortions in this country"? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #109

You're just stealing my idea to boost your own numbers! Solly Mack Apr 2015 #113

I'm driving a busload of gals to Vegas tonight. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #120

Damn. Wish I'd thought that! Solly Mack Apr 2015 #123

Just because there is a dentist on every corner PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #131

Hey, PTTP beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #137

outstanding post! Kicked and recommended. PatrickforO Apr 2015 #112

Yes, use an IUD which can pierce the uterine wall and cause the need for a hysterectomy Lordquinton Apr 2015 #124

I have never "desired" a root canal. And I think they should be available to anyone who wants/needs pnwmom Apr 2015 #133

Thanks. I agree, and have had one because the guy was sterile. babylonsister Apr 2015 #128

I'd be wearing dentures now if I hadn't had all those rootcanals when my teeth cracked &/or abcessed Hekate Apr 2015 #138

What we don't need gollygee Apr 2015 #140

As a dentist please allow me to say PCIntern Apr 2015 #142