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Christ almighty. joshcryer Apr 2015 #1
Well, I was puzzled by it. But then I realized that Obama doesn't get pissed off, lightly. So I msanthrope Apr 2015 #2
Issa (or his staffer) should've got 5 years for that crap. joshcryer Apr 2015 #3
It puts the Bernie Sanders' letter into its proper hypocritical, historical context, doesn't it? msanthrope Apr 2015 #4
It's pure fucking cronyism. joshcryer Apr 2015 #7
Why do you think Issa hit so hard on Benghazi? I suspect Issa knew he could be in trouble, and msanthrope Apr 2015 #11
House of Cards stuff here. joshcryer Apr 2015 #15
I suspect Issa is headed for a fateful crash with the Clinton machine. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #29
Yep. joshcryer Apr 2015 #33
That little everything punk prick. And now THIS NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #226
He published a draft that had already been leaked the previous year. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #70
This entire OP is about revealing facts in a way that implies linkage of things MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #140
Pay not attention... joshcryer Apr 2015 #145
So are you claiming the following? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #151
No. joshcryer Apr 2015 #154
The OP smears 4 democrats. Pay no attention to woman behind the curtain. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #152
Pretty disturbing stuff, it seems. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #153
This is a substantive post. joshcryer Apr 2015 #157
I smear every fucking Democrat that didn't say a word about this. joshcryer Apr 2015 #156
Link please that this insane policy did not exist before the OP's fantasy. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #160
I don't have to. joshcryer Apr 2015 #162
Sure you do. When you make a claim like that you need to back it up. pa28 Apr 2015 #187
The "usual channels" may not be unfettered access. joshcryer Apr 2015 #191
What changes? Members of both the Senate and the House, in 2012 made claims that they Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #192
How many members of congress... joshcryer Apr 2015 #204
The USTR cracked down? Please link to ANY evidence that access was looser before 2012. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #205
Can you provide a letter from before Issa's antics? joshcryer Apr 2015 #206
Can you provide a link that Congress had access? In fact, the letters from the House and the Senate Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #207
You never have open access. joshcryer Apr 2015 #208
Wyden does have regular access to some highly classified stuff JonLP24 Apr 2015 #215
Then I'm sure he and his staffer would be open to an investigation. joshcryer Apr 2015 #147
Thank you for doing the Digging, msanthrope! There's so much hysteria around here about "Secrecy!" Cha Apr 2015 #86
Issa was never on the Congressional Oversight Group on Trade. Thus he had no access to leak Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #99
So, you are claiming this Committee does not exist, and did not investigate TPP, Benghazi, and isn't msanthrope Apr 2015 #183
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #201
I see. Secrecy regarding the TPP is the Republican's fault. delrem Apr 2015 #5
Well, Congresspeople having to babysit their staffers is Issa's fault. Note that neither Warren or msanthrope Apr 2015 #6
Except the problem is the continued secrecy. delrem Apr 2015 #8
You don't get it. joshcryer Apr 2015 #9
I get it. You like it, that the TPP is still classified. delrem Apr 2015 #19
The TPP should be classified until it's final. We have 11 other nations involved, and they rely on msanthrope Apr 2015 #23
I like that we'll have 60 days to protest it. joshcryer Apr 2015 #24
Actually, I think it is up to 90 days still_one Apr 2015 #102
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #67
Actually, what is happening is that somehow all of this will be blamed on Warren and Sanders, so djean111 Apr 2015 #10
No, Issa deserves rightful blame. joshcryer Apr 2015 #12
EFF, Public Citizen, Doctors Without Borders, etc., all wrote about the leak a full year Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #75
Posting facts means you are a Republican operative MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #141
As far as I can tell... MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #142
Yes. Nuts. And four democrats were smeared by the OP. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #148
Well yes. Just upthread, it's blamed on their "cronyism". delrem Apr 2015 #13
You don't think it's cronyism for congresspeople... joshcryer Apr 2015 #17
Just holding feet to the fire. Even Warren's. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #18
You lit a straw man. And that's all you've got. nt delrem Apr 2015 #22
You seem to want to forget Issa's involvment with TPP leaking. Why? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #25
Because anything negative against the President of the United States Iliyah Apr 2015 #178
Check out downthread--we are now supposed to pretend Issa never headed House COG, never investigated msanthrope Apr 2015 #180
Warren and Sanders share the blame with every other Congressperson who didn't call out Issa. Plenty msanthrope Apr 2015 #14
Issa is the closest thing to a Luca Brasi the house has. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #16
Any trade deal that involves 12 nations is going to have massive security, and will be secret msanthrope Apr 2015 #20
Lulz Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #26
You compliment the Notorious S.I.D. when you copy him. msanthrope Apr 2015 #28
Just playing with the neocons Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #31
Bravely, you face "neocons" with smilies? Indeed, Sir Robin! nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #34
Who is sir Robbin? Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #38
You youngsters. No appreciation for fine culture. msanthrope Apr 2015 #41
Do you remember Woodstock Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #44
Apparently, I was there. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #45
Lol Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #46
It wasn't lax, Issa just shit on the trade committee. joshcryer Apr 2015 #27
As they should retaliate. Too bad no Congressperson took Issa to task for being the bad apple. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #30
+1 joshcryer Apr 2015 #35
This is why I miss Prosense. She would have found it, months ago...as soon as the babysitting msanthrope Apr 2015 #39
Heck, republicans accused FDR of 'secret tariff agreements' and they were just bilateral deals. n/t pampango Apr 2015 #32
Right--I thought FDR Democrats liked reciprocal trade agreements? FDR sure did. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #36
It would seem that some "FDR Democrats" part company with their mentor on trade issues. pampango Apr 2015 #43
Those who forget history.......nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #47
Bretton Woods Conference joshcryer Apr 2015 #52
I understand the reasoning behind the secrecy. I just don't LIKE it in this case. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #37
I like the idea of the 500 entities--it included labor and environmental in the top tier.... msanthrope Apr 2015 #40
That's a lot more than many on this board. Cha Apr 2015 #90
Many hateful thread which gets over the top rec'ds Iliyah Apr 2015 #182
It wasn't there in the first place. joshcryer Apr 2015 #21
But if there wasn't a problem before, then Issa's staffer taking a copy for his Buns_of_Fire Apr 2015 #48
It wasn't taking the copy that was the problem. joshcryer Apr 2015 #53
The entire text SHOULD be posted on line. ALL of it, Every fucking word. 99Forever Apr 2015 #42
And it will be. Once it's final. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #50
Too late then. 99Forever Apr 2015 #57
take it up with the founding fathers then. msanthrope Apr 2015 #68
Screw the "legislative branch." 99Forever Apr 2015 #71
. . . and Warren took the secrecy ball tossed by Issa and ran with it ucrdem Apr 2015 #49
I've seen that interview. I am disappointed Warren did not discuss the prior msanthrope Apr 2015 #51
Curious how she stuck to that talking point. ucrdem Apr 2015 #54
Like msanthrope said, Obama doesn't get pissed easily. joshcryer Apr 2015 #55
I don't think he has much choice. ucrdem Apr 2015 #56
Howzabout I criticize the whole lot of 'em? stillwaiting Apr 2015 #58
Yep. joshcryer Apr 2015 #61
Even if it happened, it require that such leaking can't be a heroic act against opacity. HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #59
I am not sure some understands the process of negotiations and I therefore Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #60
Really? Depaysement Apr 2015 #62
Easy....start with filing a House Ethics complaint. And you are right.... msanthrope Apr 2015 #64
Not easy Depaysement Apr 2015 #77
Let me see if I have you correctly....No one should file against Issa because msanthrope Apr 2015 #80
It would never get out of committee so why bother Depaysement Apr 2015 #87
It's all becomes clear, it's nothing about the Democrats or the Republicans. It's all about Obama. Autumn Apr 2015 #63
Our government never learns. Baitball Blogger Apr 2015 #65
I won't hold my breath for the Third-Way Manny thread complaining about Issa... SidDithers Apr 2015 #66
From the perpetually sarcastic, IOKIYAR. randome Apr 2015 #72
No shite. Cha Apr 2015 #89
Actually, he published a draft that had already been leaked the previous year. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #69
Defending Darrell Issa's actions is, I had hoped, beneath you, LA. And techdirt isn't telling msanthrope Apr 2015 #73
I'm laying out the facts as I found them. Care to provide a link that an Issa staffer leaked the Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #76
Again...you are defending Issa, who was behind the original leak. Do you think it msanthrope Apr 2015 #79
Care to provide a link that Issa was behind the leak? Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #81
Sure....once you provide a link to back up your claims about Israel Shamir. msanthrope Apr 2015 #83
I can't cite anything he wrote for the Israeli publication. I don't speak, read Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #93
You just used an anti-Semite repudiated by the Catholic League to bolster msanthrope Apr 2015 #104
I'm not defending Issa. I am defending Reid, Pelosi, Sanders, and Warren. Dems that you're smearing. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #123
You just used an anti-Semite repudiated by the Catholic League to bolster your claims about another msanthrope Apr 2015 #129
I provided the info you requested, And you said, if I did, you would do in return. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #158
You used an Anti-Semite, repudiated by the Catholic League....hardly a progressive msanthrope Apr 2015 #161
Progressive was not the standard. A citation was. I provided. I doubt you will Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #194
are you going to admit that you were wrong about this Holocaust denier? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #219
Of course "defend issa".. nothing will get in their way to bash President Obama. Nothing. Cha Apr 2015 #88
I thought this was about Pelosi and Reid? The OP is baselessly bashing them with flailing fabrication. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #100
You are actually claiming downthread that this Commitee--House COG, does not exist--- msanthrope Apr 2015 #116
Yep. There is no such thing as House COG. GOG, BY STATUTE, is comprised by members of the Senate Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #125
So Politico made up an imaginary Committee? msanthrope Apr 2015 #131
No. There are dozens of oversight committees. Issa was not on the COG committee. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #137
He was the chairman of the House COG. I provided you video of him in the Sandra Fluke matter. msanthrope Apr 2015 #138
He was chairman of Government and Oversight Reform. Which has nothing to do with trade and this... Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #139
Lemme see if I have this....you have dropped the claim that the the House COG does not exist? msanthrope Apr 2015 #167
Nope. Not once dropped the claim the House COG does not exist. It doesn't exist. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #170
This Comimittee does not exist---and never investigated TPP, Benghazi, and the ACA? msanthrope Apr 2015 #175
COGR exists. House COG does not exist. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #193
Your War on Acronyms ranks up there with the time you accused me of plagiarizing msanthrope Apr 2015 #221
At this point, we have posters claiming this committee--House COG, does not exist..... msanthrope Apr 2015 #117
Because it doesn't. COG, established in 2002 specified to trade. Issa's committee was established in Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #126
So this committee, in which Issa opened up a TPP investigation, is imaginary? msanthrope Apr 2015 #132
There is not one word about any TPP or investigation, What. So. Ever. Is this a joke? Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #146
And now you conceed the existence of a Committee you previously denied. msanthrope Apr 2015 #159
He did not qualify to be on the committee, I am defending Democrats. You aren tearing them down, Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #164
Lemme see if I have this.....You now acknowledge there actually is a Committee? msanthrope Apr 2015 #165
Um….. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #168
So you admit the Committee you claimed does not exist, actually exists? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #169
Sigh, There are dozens of oversight committees. Issas committee is not GOC Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #171
This Committee--with a TPP investigation, a Benghazi investigation, etc....does not exist? msanthrope Apr 2015 #177
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #195
I appreciate you walking back your claim that Issa didn't investigate TPP msanthrope Apr 2015 #222
Of course they are.. I've seen their denials in action before.. Cha Apr 2015 #149
And yet people blame Obama for 99% of the shit Congress does! Rex Apr 2015 #74
He's also Representative Arson Insurance Fraud too! cascadiance Apr 2015 #78
In 2012 only the a few members of the Congressional oversight committee had access. pa28 Apr 2015 #82
Um...No..That's not what I wrote. Issa was on COG House. And he and his staffer leaked. msanthrope Apr 2015 #84
Your OP says the USTRO's office tried allowing unfettered access but restricted it due to Issa. pa28 Apr 2015 #85
It is almost certain that Issa wasn't even a member of the Congressional Oversight Group on Trade Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #96
Are you kidding me? Issa is COG House....which is what I wrote....and that commitee does actually msanthrope Apr 2015 #108
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #200
There is no such thing as COG House. In 2011, Issa was chair of House Committee on Oversight Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #95
Holy frackin' crap---are you kidding me? First of all, COG House does exist----here it is.... msanthrope Apr 2015 #105
COG House does not exist. COG is specific to Wyden's 2002 legislation that addresses trade. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #133
Are you actually denying that this committee--that Elijah Cummings is on, does not exist? msanthrope Apr 2015 #135
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #197
Issa simply re-posted an old leak. Who did the original leak? riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #91
Issa wasn't even on the Congressional Oversight Group on Trade so he would have no access. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #97
How is it that you are completely unfamiliar with COG House--to the point of denying its existence? msanthrope Apr 2015 #109
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #199
Make it public Aerows Apr 2015 #92
You have provided some really great info on all of this. K&R Number23 Apr 2015 #94
She provided shite. Issa was never on the Congressional Oversight Group On Trade in 2011 or 2012. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #98
After all of your posts in this thread, is it really necessary for you to accost every single person Number23 Apr 2015 #101
No. It is not okay because Msanthrope smears Pelosi and Reid on a complete fabrication. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #103
Issa had the documents because House COG had a TPP investigation going full throttle. How did you msanthrope Apr 2015 #114
How can I claim there is no House COG on trade because there isn't. The COG on trade is Senate AND House. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #127
Are you actually saying that Elijah Cummings is on an imaginary committee that did not have a TPP msanthrope Apr 2015 #134
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #196
Then let me accost you. She's posted fabricated garbage. Made it up. riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #106
Actually....I'm amazingly surprised that neither you nor Luminous Animal seem to remember that msanthrope Apr 2015 #111
No, it says more about the absolutely PANICKED responses you and your pal are making Number23 Apr 2015 #118
I've got 2 posts in this entire thread and I'm the one panicked??!! riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #202
The panic was in the number of posts from your pal and your needless reponse to me Number23 Apr 2015 #210
Misanthrope can't even keep the timeline or committees straight riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #213
There's no rage, dear. You've gotten that as accurate as your summation of msanthrope's timeline Number23 Apr 2015 #214
Note--Luminous Animal is actually claiming that the commitee that Issa chaired does not exist...... msanthrope Apr 2015 #115
We both know I'd take your word over the likes of the others running up and down this thread Number23 Apr 2015 #119
I know it, and I appreciate it. But I'm honestly stunned....to defend Issa, there is now the claim msanthrope Apr 2015 #120
Well, I mean if it's okay with the squatters in this thread, I'd like to reiterate my earlier post Number23 Apr 2015 #121
I thank you.....and I'm off to walk my lovie mess of a dog and laugh my ass off......nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #122
House COG does not exist. The acronym for the committee that Issa sat on is COGR. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #198
Issa's committee is not called COG. COG was established in 2002. Issa's in 1816. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #128
Are you actually denying that House COG does not exist? Is Elijah Cummings lying? msanthrope Apr 2015 #136
He was on COG House which has nothing to do with contraception, but how did you forget Sandra Fluke? msanthrope Apr 2015 #110
Hey, this wouldn't be the first time that people opposed to President Obama have broken the law... YoungDemCA Apr 2015 #107
To clarify the issue of whether Issa was responsible for initially leaking the document: No, but.... YoungDemCA Apr 2015 #112
actually--Issa was responsible for the initial leak. House COG had those documents because of their msanthrope Apr 2015 #113
Link please to the committee known as the House COG. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #124
Already did, upthread, with video of Issa being asked why House COG would not host Sandra Fluke. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #130
Refresh my memory Aerows Apr 2015 #150
Nope. No such thing has house COG. You are confusing a House domestic oversight Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #155
You, madam, are pretending that Issa's House COG simply did not exist. msanthrope Apr 2015 #163
You, something or other, are pretending that the House COG exists. It does not. Link please. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #166
This quibble has no bearing on the OP which makes no mention of said committee. ucrdem Apr 2015 #172
Yeah joshcryer Apr 2015 #174
For your viewing pleasure---apparently, I plagarized my own OP..... msanthrope Apr 2015 #181
I remember well. joshcryer Apr 2015 #184
Fixed...nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #185
There was a time when Luminous Animal accused me of plagarizing my own thread, and threatened to msanthrope Apr 2015 #179
Ah yes.. ucrdem Apr 2015 #188
So Issa is in on this, too Aerows Apr 2015 #143
Democratic former Mass. Gov. Deval Patrick joins Bain Capital ucrdem Apr 2015 #144
Wow after reading those epic sub-threads...yikes. Rex Apr 2015 #173
Rex--respectfully, that won't clear it up. Once you start claiming that certain msanthrope Apr 2015 #176
Yeah I did not mean LA Rex Apr 2015 #189
"you aren't going to admit your mistake" Nope, if anything hunker down deeper and keep accosting Number23 Apr 2015 #209
at this point I'm asking la to admit she was wrong about the Holocaust denier msanthrope Apr 2015 #220
Rough draft of TPP will be able for review by the public and congresscritters will be able Iliyah Apr 2015 #186
The long and winding road of misinformation…. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #190
Great work, Luminous Animal Oilwellian Apr 2015 #211
Congress is kabuki theater on acid. Rex Apr 2015 #212
LA and I go way back. I once wrote something about Glenn Greenwald msanthrope Apr 2015 #218
I doubt anyone was confused when you typed HCOG. Thanks for the explanation. Rex Apr 2015 #223
I guess I'm lucky LA didn't accuse me of being homophobic with my acronym usage this time. msanthrope Apr 2015 #224
I remember that and telling her I use GG just like I use HRC and so what does that mean? Rex Apr 2015 #229
No....I called GG a 'ratfucker' and the alerter claimed I was being homophobic. I got a hide. msanthrope Apr 2015 #230
so far in this thread you've denied a committee existed and you've used an anti Semite msanthrope Apr 2015 #216
Why does this remind me of Jonathan Gruber/Obamacare? merrily Apr 2015 #203
God, if you're down to throwing Reid and Pelosi under the bus to defend Obama... Marr Apr 2015 #217
Bullshit 99Forever Apr 2015 #225
That's BS....in keeping with the War on Acronyms LA msanthrope Apr 2015 #227
Smells like bullshit, it's bullshit. 99Forever Apr 2015 #228
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